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potato_hamster said:

 It appear extremely logical business decision, but really the only people it truly benefits is Nintendo's hardcore fans. For Nintendo, it means while they may be doubling down on their most hardcore fanbase, they're also limiting the money they can extract from them since these fans will no longer be buying two consoles and two copies of some of their multi-platform games.

Hardcore Ninty fans is all Nintendo cares for to begin with lol. If Nintendo wanted consumers like you, then NX as a platform would be unecessary. 3rd parties can support a platform so Ninty wouldnt need to increase their own support of their home consoles, 3rd parties would already have that covered. How many gens does Ninty need to ignore 3rd parties for you to get the hint they dont care for them? Its all just pr talk like always and then people are stuck looking stupid when things dont go the way they dreamed. Ninty wants to expand outside of core gamers. Blue ocean and Ninty fans is all Ninty cares for, plain and simple. Wii & DS is what Ninty wants to repeat not PS4. Ninty sold 250 million units in a single gen? Why would you then aim for 120 million at best(PS4). You are also assuming Ninty fans wouldnt continue to buy both with a unified plat? I'm sure millions would consider buying both since now their entire library works on the go as well and visa versa. Millions will ofcourse opt for just one of them, just like all of there past gens. Millions opt for just WiiU and millions opt for just 3ds. Millions opt for both as well and would continue to do so for NX as well.

They're also limiting their appeal to a wider audience because the handheld will undoubtedly be more expensive if it has to have a minimum power baseline to make console games also run well on the handheld, or conversely they'll have to severely underpower their home console to make games compatible with the handheld, making the home console's appeal even smaller than the Wii U's (hello Playstation TV). So really they have to choose between an expensive handheld and a unappealing home console in order to even make it feasible.

Weaker home console is the obvious route since Ninty has already gotten away with a weaker plat beating stronger plats, Wii stomping PS3 ring a bell? Now imagine Wii with the DS software backing it also and you have an utter beat down without 3rd parties and being much weaker lol. So im calling bullshit on your less appealing than WiiU line. The problem with most people such as yourself is you are still viewing this thing as home console or handheld? This is no longer a traditional home console or handheld, every game will be playable on both... so why would Ninty seperate their sales? They contribute to a single ecosystem, so singling them out makes no since what so ever. If the portable version sells 60 million and the stationary version sells 40 million, you have a userbase of 100 million rather you agree or not. There is something else you are also ignoring, the gimmicks each individual device will still receive. Thats the most important element about NX, Ninty is still aiming blue ocean. WiiU and 3DS failed because their respective gimmicks never took off, so you were left with a handheld with pretty much 75% of Nintys support and a home console with 25% up against plats with their supporters full support(xb1/ps4). NX on the other hand continues the Wii&DS route but instead safely because if the gimmicks fail again then atleast they still have their entire unsplit fanbase to treat. 


It's also not appealing to third party developers, because even if its just a matter of recompiling the code to work on one platform or another, it's still literally double the testing and there will still be system-specific issues that arise, making the NX more expensive to develop for than the PS4 or X1. They would have to support and test each hardware specification. So it's going to be hard to justify to them to make games on a platform that's more expensive and traditionally doesn't support third parties very well.

Ninty stopped kissing 3rd parties asses years ago, its nothing but fanboy dreams that still believe Ninty cares.

And sure, the potential market might be there between the 3DS and Wii U, but considering that the handheld market could very well be drying up considering the downward trend of all decidcated handheld video game sales, and pretty much no one buying a Wii U besides those that buy any hardware made by Nintendo, it seems like a rather poor choice to put your eggs in that basket.

My favorite part is how people truly believe Ninty would accept such a fate for dedicated handheld devices. Why would Ninty atleast not try to turn it around? This has always been the achilles hill in all NX home console favoritism. NX being a ps4 level home console with all of the handhelds support does not compute at all, what does the handheld gain in this? Why would Nintendo put all of their eggs in a basket(home consoles) that has never been very good to them and has tons of competition? I have a question for you. If Nintys handheld base ever died, how much would a competitive home console from Ninty sale? How would Ninty do if all of their eggs were instead in the basket of a home console? Would Sony not all of a sudden become even more dangerous to Ninty considering now the highest selling games in Japan are even up for grabs, Nintys remaining stronghold? Monster Hunter now has no reason to be exclusive and neither does all the other exclusive 3rds Ninty recieves in Japan.

But hey, let's say it succeed. Let's say the NX goes and sells 150 million consoles world wide. Nintendo is making hundreds of millions a year, everyone is happy. Now let's say the NX successor.... is now two seperate consoles again, because money. Imagine how well that will go over. Nintendo will be forced into hybrid consoles for that point onwards lest they feel their fans wrath.

Wow this makes no sense at all either, why would they re seperate them lol. This is the definition of a reach.

No. Nintendo is not going to have one game for two consoles. It will more than likely be easier than ever to port games from one system to the other, but when you go into gamestop, there will be two different sections of games, side by side. They're going to have two consoles with similar hardware and two games that run seperately on those two consoles, and you'll probably buy one copy of each and think it'll be genius of Nintendo if they gave you a reason to only buy one, and wonder why they don't.

No just no, people wouldnt buy the same game twice? This scenario is practically what they have already been doing accept the games are the same instead of different. How in the world is this encouraging people to buy both? If you buy the home console, you have to buy the handheld and your library again? Thats not encouraging at all.



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Nah, this is probably fake and there are lot of sings ponting that. Since people already mentioned some of them, I'll highlight another one: Nintendo always used different resolutions for the 2 screens of DS/3DS. The upper screen is the higher definition one, so it's a bit suspicious that this rumor lists both as 720p screens.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

I highly doubt that the rumor in the OP is accurate. With Pokémon Sun/Moon coming to the 3DS this fall, it now seems very unlikely to me that the 3DS will be getting replaced in 2016. If anything, I now think the NX home console will be the 2016 release and will come out before the handheld component.



Illusion said:
I highly doubt that the rumor in the OP is accurate. With Pokémon Sun/Moon coming to the 3DS this fall, it now seems very unlikely to me that the 3DS will be getting replaced in 2016. If anything, I now think the NX home console will be the 2016 release and will come out before the handheld component.

DS got Black and White after 3ds hit the market.......



Nintyfan90 said:
                                         

DS got Black and White after 3ds hit the market.......

I think that if Nintendo does something like this then they will have to make Sun/Moon a dual-platform release between the NX handheld and 3DS.  Nintendo is just in far too weak of a position now to release a new handheld and not take advantage of a guaranteed 10 million-selling Pokemon game that's coming out in its launch window.



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Illusion said:
Nintyfan90 said:
                                         

DS got Black and White after 3ds hit the market.......

I think that if Nintendo does something like this then they will have to make Sun/Moon a dual-platform release between the NX handheld and 3DS.  Nintendo is just in far too weak of a position now to release a new handheld and not take advantage of a guaranteed 10 million-selling Pokemon game that's coming out in its launch window.

Maybe to you they are in a very weak position but I doubt Ninty sees it that way. 



The two things that make the rumour unbelievable are as follows:

1. Sakurai having a game in development for NXH - he's currently on an extended holiday after finishing off Smash, something he explicitly said in the February edition of his Famitsu column.

2. No mention at all of anything "new" about the systems - they're just Wii U and 3DS with more power and, in the case of Wii U, a different architecture and an SD card slot on the controller. Nintendo have been pretty explicit about NX having a "new idea" that they didn't want to talk about too early because they were worried a competitor would steal the idea. I can understand the rumour not specifying what the new thing is, but it should have at least mentioned its existence.



Jumpin said:
Thunderbird77 said:

We heard nothing from nintendo.

Huh? Of course we have.

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business, let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand-new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

-Satoru Iwata, March 2015


Correct, nothing.



Out of all of the NX rumors, this one would be in my top 5 I want to be true. Too bad it isn't.



 

Back in 2011, when there were rumors of the Project Cafe, which talked of a new controller with a big screen on it. I refused to believe it, because it was so damn stupid and a terrible idea. It turned out to be true and sure enough, it was a flop in the market.

Now, there are rumors of a hybrid console, the NX being both portable and home based. I refuse to believe it because it's so damn stupid and an awful idea. However, nobody at Nintendo is denying it so, it's probably true. And once again, just like I called it with the Gamecube as well, this is going to be a dud.

I hope Nintendo doesn't give up like Sega did, but they gotta stop doing the wrong things.

I hope to God that NX is a home console. NO handheld, or screen on the controller. This has been proven time and time again to not work. Let's do something good again Nintendo.