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Did Street Fighter V bomb?

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LudicrousSpeed said:
Bryank75 said:
I really think everyone is far too invested in seeing this game fail to see some obvious things like sf4 launched in 2009 after a huge huge hiatus and a lot of people bought it for nostalgia's sake.
Now look at the super and ultra sales... Do any of you think Sony or capcom would not be aware of sales trends for those releases?
From what I see it sold well in europe and us. So dont discount it just yet.

You think a majority of gamers complaining are actually people who have never played and will never play the game, and you think the media is biased against it because it's a PS4 exclusive (thats also on PC). Maybe you are just too invested in defending the game to see some obvious flaws with the game or possible signs of bad sales?

I mean, does anyone here really think SFV "failed"? Or will fail? Sony and Capcom can just keep throwing money at it and give it time to rebound.

We all know PC isn't very hot for the fighting genre and it only sold 100K on steam. 

I did point out that the media scene is now missing Colin, Greg and the GT crew leading to a sort of imbalance. Leaving sites like polygon unchecked and then you have click bait reviews and reviews pandering and exaggerating the popular opinion. This amplifies the imbalance.

But as I said this game should be compared against super and ultra not the sf4 original release as it was riding a wave of casual interest and nostalgia. Sony and capcom would obviously be aware of the trends in the genre since. 



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Goatseye said:
Swordmasterman said:

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Activision doesn't have money to purchase Vivendi. They bought their freedom/shares from Vivendi.

Capcom can only be bought by another Japanese company, Japan has an anti-agressive take over law that's only applied to foreign companies. Expect Squeenix to buy Capcom and bury most of their IPs but the most profitable ones.

Sega is not an independent company.

As I said in an older post, by the end of this gen capcom will be part of Sony. 



Fear_Me_All said:
Give capcom a break, Killer Instinct did the same it was release 1/3 done and still since they give update.
Now season 3 will be release.

So instead of complain and if your a fighting game fan, buy the game to show support so capcom can bring more character and goodie (like killer instinct did and still do) and enjoy all new content that will be release during the course of the next 2 year. (just like Killer Instinct did).

You could compare it to KI but SFV woud have to cost 20$ at release or being free with one character available. Which it's not. 60$ is the kind of price you want to pay for a complete game, which it's not. In some time it'll be worth the 60$ but right now you can't blame people for not wanting to spend so much for so little. 

I have always supported Street Fighter but now it's like Capcom did everything to make sure I don't.



Bryank75 said:
Goatseye said:

Activision doesn't have money to purchase Vivendi. They bought their freedom/shares from Vivendi.

Capcom can only be bought by another Japanese company, Japan has an anti-agressive take over law that's only applied to foreign companies. Expect Squeenix to buy Capcom and bury most of their IPs but the most profitable ones.

Sega is not an independent company.

As I said in an older post, by the end of this gen capcom will be part of Sony. 

Wonder if that turn out to be true, how Sony will manage all capcom IP. Megaman, Breath of fire, Monster Hunter, street fighter, resident evil, Lost planet etc...



I'm not sure exactly how a Capcom acquisition would work, seeing as how Capcom has become more of a publisher that manages multiple production studios rather than development teams.

Obviously, the licensing clout of all Capcom's IPs has value, but if that's what would spur an acquisition, Capcom would effectively be hacked to pieces with all the management redundancies, not that anyone should particularly care about Capcom as a corporate entity rather than as a publisher who manages production studios employing development teams producing games a not significant consumer base of fans and players genuinely love and enjoy.



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naruball said:
Dravenet7 said:

Now, now. No need to accuse someone of spreading misinformation and then immediately do it yourself. See how the currrency Nem uses isn't US "$"?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=splatoon+price+...+in+Europe

Now, now. No need to purposely misread my post. Read the original comment Nem replied to. Nem made it sound like Splatoon lacked content but was priced more fairly. That was only  in Europe where wiiu does terribly anyway and has less of a chance to sell well, while in America, where a lot of its sales came from it cost as much as a full priced game. You can't want a game to fail for lack of content because of free updates when another game will have the same model. Both games lacked content and both games cost full price. It's not like America was a tiny market.

If I say x game is expensive for what it offers and someone replies with "it actually only costs x euros", he gives the impression that the game is priced similarly everywhere.

Now, now. Be sure to rereread what you wrote and then what I wrote before subsequently claiming I purposely misread it, and please pay further attention to what you are saying here. It was not only a reduced price in Europe, the entirety of Europe, but also Japan. The only place in fact, that was getting the standard full price was America. "That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. "If I say [y] game is [reasonably priced] for what it offers and someone replies with 'it actually only costs [y] dollars', he gives the impression that the game is priced similarly everywhere."

And downplaying a market in order to make it sound like the non-full price meant is immaterial? Tsk tsk, no bueno. Intersting thing to point out is that Europe and Japan have historically not been the place fighters sell the most or very well, yet the was not a reduced price for those regions. Is there a reason you don't say that those regions should have gotten a reduced price like Splatoon? Espcially since the their lack of content/ free updates are not only allegedly the same, but the regions in which will buy their systems are pretty much  in the same condition?

*To clarify, I read it evverything well before this, Nem's never really made sense to me then and it doesn't really now. In context. Nem , howevver, did not spread misinformation



Swordmasterman said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Nope, I don't think SFV was a risk at all. Guaranteed multi million seller. However, SFV may under perform due to being launched incomplete.

RE6 was objectively a bad game but still sold really well.

Even with Monster Hunter's Sucess, they managed only to make 32 Millions of Profit, on the Whole fiscal year, ending March 2014, agaist 300 Millions of Sega, Resident Evil 6, was launched 4 years ago, is one of the Longest wait for a Resident Evil Main game, the biggest gap was between Resident Evil 3, and 4, was 6 Years, and the lowest gap was with Resident Evil 2, and 3, a gap of 1 Year between the Releases.

The game launched incomplete, because of Capcom's Pro Tour, that had a event on February, so the Launch was mainly because of the Profitional Players.

Acording to Capcom, they only had 152 Millions on Bank, as of 2013, and with only 32 Millions of Profit per year, they could not afford to take the Risks,  if the Multiple Releases of Street Fighter IV, hurted the confidence on Capcom, and they spend over 80-90 Millions of US$ with Marketing, Development, and Capcom Pro Tour, if the game did not made a Return, Capcom, would be Purchased by other Company, look at How Much Activision, have In-Cash, already purchased Viventi, Blizzard, Kings, what would cost to Purchase Capcom ?, Activision, had much more than 6 Billions In-Cash, so comparing Capcom, with Any other of the Major companies, even to Sega, Capcom, was having a Hard Time, you cannot have this low of Money, when you are a Service Company, i think that  All the Other major Companies, Sega, Square Enix, Konami, have atleast more than 500 Millions In-Cash, and all those companies make more than 300 Millions of Profit Per Year, Capcom, only 32.

It didn't cost $80-90 million to make SFV. They aren't making an open world game like GTAV or Witcher 3.

Also, I bet MS or Sony would have bought exclusive marketing, content, bundles, etc. Instead Sony threw a ton of money at them and got the exclusive. Sony was willing to buy that exclusive because it was low risk.



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Heck Capcom isn't even ponying up the prize for the Capcom Cup. That too is Sony. I'm sure that outside of a few residual bonuses that they might miss out on for meeting critical or sales goals.... this whole thing should be no skin off of Capcom's back.



Dravenet7 said:
naruball said:

Now, now. No need to purposely misread my post. Read the original comment Nem replied to. Nem made it sound like Splatoon lacked content but was priced more fairly. That was only  in Europe where wiiu does terribly anyway and has less of a chance to sell well, while in America, where a lot of its sales came from it cost as much as a full priced game. You can't want a game to fail for lack of content because of free updates when another game will have the same model. Both games lacked content and both games cost full price. It's not like America was a tiny market.

If I say x game is expensive for what it offers and someone replies with "it actually only costs x euros", he gives the impression that the game is priced similarly everywhere.

Now, now. Be sure to rereread what you wrote and then what I wrote before subsequently claiming I purposely misread it, and please pay further attention to what you are saying here. It was not only a reduced price in Europe, the entirety of Europe, but also Japan. The only place in fact, that was getting the standard full price was America. "That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. "If I say [y] game is [reasonably priced] for what it offers and someone replies with 'it actually only costs [y] dollars', he gives the impression that the game is priced similarly everywhere."

And downplaying a market in order to make it sound like the non-full price meant is immaterial? Tsk tsk, no bueno. Intersting thing to point out is that Europe and Japan have historically not been the place fighters sell the most or very well, yet the was not a reduced price for those regions. Is there a reason you don't say that those regions should have gotten a reduced price like Splatoon? Espcially since the their lack of content/ free updates are not only allegedly the same, but the regions in which will buy their systems are pretty much  in the same condition?

*To clarify, I read it evverything well before this, Nem's never really made sense to me then and it doesn't really now. In context. Nem , howevver, did not spread misinformation

Lol at that spin. Keep it up. Also, your signature betrays your intentions.



naruball said:
Dravenet7 said:

Now, now. Be sure to rereread what you wrote and then what I wrote before subsequently claiming I purposely misread it, and please pay further attention to what you are saying here. It was not only a reduced price in Europe, the entirety of Europe, but also Japan. The only place in fact, that was getting the standard full price was America. "That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. "If I say [y] game is [reasonably priced] for what it offers and someone replies with 'it actually only costs [y] dollars', he gives the impression that the game is priced similarly everywhere."

And downplaying a market in order to make it sound like the non-full price meant is immaterial? Tsk tsk, no bueno. Intersting thing to point out is that Europe and Japan have historically not been the place fighters sell the most or very well, yet the was not a reduced price for those regions. Is there a reason you don't say that those regions should have gotten a reduced price like Splatoon? Espcially since the their lack of content/ free updates are not only allegedly the same, but the regions in which will buy their systems are pretty much  in the same condition?

*To clarify, I read it evverything well before this, Nem's never really made sense to me then and it doesn't really now. In context. Nem , howevver, did not spread misinformation

Lol at that spin. Keep it up. Also, your signature betrays your intentions.

No more now now? :/ 

Anyway, you can call it a spin all you want, it diisproves nothing.

What were my intentions? Curious how my sig betrays anything.

Speaking of my sig, I explained why its there in this thread where I discuss fighting games http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=213962&page=1#. I invite you to look at it.