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ofrm1 said:
I love how people who clearly don't want to be happy about any news involving Xbox or PS4 or whatever console can always interpret good news to be bad news so they can remain unhappy.

Microsoft retains exclusivity of games:

"Ugh moar 900p garbage. Why does Microsoft have to lock down games I want to play on their crappy console?"

Microsoft opens games up to Windows PC's:

"Man. What's the point of even buying an Xbox One? What a stupid move for them to do."

It's like the idea that some people don't want to shell out 800+ on a gaming PC to play games at a decent resolution/framerate doesn't register with them. This is an option for those gamers who are willing to pay for expensive PC's and don't like playing on Peasantbox One or whatever pejorative the master race wants to give the Xbox One.

What games did Microsoft, took away from PC ?, The only one that i saw people arguing was Tomb Raider, that Was Timed, and not made by Microsoft, the others are the same as usual, like Halo, Forza,  and some Remasters, Sunset Overdrive, is not even talked this much.

 

People were upset not because was Exclusive for the console, is because Microsoft, bought the Timed Exclusivity, after the game already was ready to launch, Also because the PC, and the PS4, have a higher Fanbase of Tomb Raider, than Xbox, look at the sales, the last game sold 4 Millions on PC, and 4Millions on PS3+ PS4.

 

Square Enix, pissed more than 8 Millions of Fans only to try push some Xbox One, consoles, but because was timed, everyone hated Microsoft for the move, and did not purchased a Xbox One, they got a little money, and pleased less than 1.5 Xbox One, gamers,  and making more than 8 Millions of other players, un-able to play the game because of the deal.



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Wow if it's true more and more people wont see any reason to keep they X1 included myself.



jason1637 said:

Well MS has made bc deals so this shouldnt be much harder.

Well games will sell better. Lets say an indie game launches and sells 20k first week on pc. Then they bring it to xb1 without spending much. because xb1 uses dx12 and it sells lik3 5k thats still making money without spending much.

Well som edeals yeah, but that doesn't mean all deals in the known universe are going to be easy, instant and successful though. X1 doesn't use DX 12 the way you think it will on PC though.

Are you trying to say that X1 will make mroe than what PC sells at despite the currents trends and data saying otherwise, especially when you take PS4 into account.

It will sell some but not by a huge amount.



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TheSting said:
Trunkin said:

Dude, if you have the money, I say go for it. PC gaming beats the hell out of console gaming, imo.

Though, if you're not gonna buy a system which doubles the XBone in performance, it's not worth it.  Also might not be worth it if you cant find room to fit a PC in your entertainment center.

OT: I'd be surprised if Forza comes to PC, but I am expecting Gears 4. It would be a real dick move to get PC gamers' hopes up with the Gears remake only to make Gears 4 a console exclusive.

Gears 1 was on PC and no others though right? I know no one who has a gaming PC. I read about it a lot but never see or hear anyone around me talk about or have one.

 

Right, I dunno what MS was thinking with Gears 1. Maybe they were unsure of the 360's success, so they released it on PC, just to be safe. So when the 360 turned out to be a smashing success, they ditched PC entirely for the franchise. Things are a little different this gen, though.

 

As for PC gaming, I only know two other people besides myself with a gaming PC. One only plays MMOs on his, and used 360, and now a PS4 for other games. The other was converted by me, lol.

 

The truth is, most people don't want to spend the amount of money it takes to build a gaming PC. Hell, I wouldn't have done it myself, but I was starting from zero. Getting a PC+monitor+Tablet was actually cheaper that getting a console+TV+Laptop. Consoles are cheap and accessable, PCs are expensive and somewhat complicated, but offer a better experience over all.



Chazore said:
jason1637 said:

Well MS has made bc deals so this shouldnt be much harder.

Well games will sell better. Lets say an indie game launches and sells 20k first week on pc. Then they bring it to xb1 without spending much. because xb1 uses dx12 and it sells lik3 5k thats still making money without spending much.

Well som edeals yeah, but that doesn't mean all deals in the known universe are going to be easy, instant and successful though. X1 doesn't use DX 12 the way you think it will on PC though.

Are you trying to say that X1 will make mroe than what PC sells at despite the currents trends and data saying otherwise, especially when you take PS4 into account.

It will sell some but not by a huge amount.

Well not every game will come but a good amount should.

XB1 games have actually been selling more than PC.

Fallout 4 on xb1 sold 3.5m http://www.vgchartz.com/game/85598/fallout-4/ on pc 2.9ml

Batman Arkham knight sold 1.3ml on xb1 http://www.vgchartz.com/game/79436/batman-arkham-knight/ on pc it sold 500k

The elder scrolls online sold 1.1ml on xb1 http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/ and 490k on pc http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=The+Elder+Scrolls+Online

Far Cry 4 on xb1 sold 1.5ml http://www.vgchartz.com/game/80323/far-cry-4/ on pc it sold 650k http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=Far+Cry

These are only few of the games but it seems like games do better on xb1 than on pc.



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jason1637 said:

Well not every game will come but a good amount should.

XB1 games have actually been selling more than PC.

Fallout 4 on xb1 sold 3.5m http://www.vgchartz.com/game/85598/fallout-4/ on pc 2.9ml

Batman Arkham knight sold 1.3ml on xb1 http://www.vgchartz.com/game/79436/batman-arkham-knight/ on pc it sold 500k

The elder scrolls online sold 1.1ml on xb1 http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/ and 490k on pc http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=The+Elder+Scrolls+Online

Far Cry 4 on xb1 sold 1.5ml http://www.vgchartz.com/game/80323/far-cry-4/ on pc it sold 650k http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=Far+Cry

These are only few of the games but it seems like games do better on xb1 than on pc.

What number is a good amount?, I mean PC has a shit ton of exclusives and games from over the years, is a good amount 80% of them or something?, even half of them is a massive amount.

Will Fallout 4 sell more than PC 10 years from now?.

WIll a game on a platform that eventually egts discontinued continue to sell more than PC? (that's a question but it;s not one that can be answered because the obvious answer is no it can't).

ES MMO drowned in a sea of MMOs on a platform that's popular with them, what XBox gamers like compared to PC is different, look at FF and Warcraft comapred to ES Online and you'll see a different picture.

FC4 on PC wasn't all that great and requires that lovely Uplay you know every PC gamer praises and loves.

If games sell better on X1 than PC then why is MS shifting all these strats in favour of PC and not all on X1?, why are they shifting plans and not taking on PS4?.

All the good things against PC you wrote are different due to how the game was launched vs the market it;s targeting, you gave an MMO that's unpopular on PC for various reasons, not the markets fault that they didn't do a better job at grabbing the crowd while other more popular MMOs win out. The sales data can only go on for so long before the platform stops and the next gen begins, with PC the sales go on and on and on for years and years. That's why Skyrim has sold more on PC along with other games like XCOM than last gen combined and it still goes on, where is everyone on last gen or current gen buying Skyrim and XCOM?, they have all the time in the world to go back to another platform and buy said game, once it gets discontinued then the point will still be standing there. What you get is those nice looking "burst" sales that you're pointing out rather than standing back and looking at the end game sales some years later. A good game on PC will sell for years and years, even through discounts and non discounts, as long as it's actually liked by people on that platform then it will continue to sell.



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Aerys said:
At this point, no need to put " rumor" anymore when it comes to à X1 "exclusive "

Its last gen all over again. Sony fans getting worked up about every Xbox game coming to PC.

Except... not every Xbox exclusive is on PC.



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Chazore said:

What number is a good amount?, I mean PC has a shit ton of exclusives and games from over the years, is a good amount 80% of them or something?, even half of them is a massive amount.

Will Fallout 4 sell more than PC 10 years from now?.

WIll a game on a platform that eventually egts discontinued continue to sell more than PC? (that's a question but it;s not one that can be answered because the obvious answer is no it can't).

ES MMO drowned in a sea of MMOs on a platform that's popular with them, what XBox gamers like compared to PC is different, look at FF and Warcraft comapred to ES Online and you'll see a different picture.

FC4 on PC wasn't all that great and requires that lovely Uplay you know every PC gamer praises and loves.

If games sell better on X1 than PC then why is MS shifting all these strats in favour of PC and not all on X1?, why are they shifting plans and not taking on PS4?.

All the good things against PC you wrote are different due to how the game was launched vs the market it;s targeting, you gave an MMO that's unpopular on PC for various reasons, not the markets fault that they didn't do a better job at grabbing the crowd while other more popular MMOs win out. The sales data can only go on for so long before the platform stops and the next gen begins, with PC the sales go on and on and on for years and years. That's why Skyrim has sold more on PC along with other games like XCOM than last gen combined and it still goes on, where is everyone on last gen or current gen buying Skyrim and XCOM?, they have all the time in the world to go back to another platform and buy said game, once it gets discontinued then the point will still be standing there. What you get is those nice looking "burst" sales that you're pointing out rather than standing back and looking at the end game sales some years later. A good game on PC will sell for years and years, even through discounts and non discounts, as long as it's actually liked by people on that platform then it will continue to sell.

Relax man Win10 is only another place for MS to reach gamers that don't have an Xbox. It's not like you either support on or the other. Supporting both is good business imo, not everyone wants to buy a gaming PC and not everyone wants to buy consoles. Single platform releases will slowly fade away as gaming turns into a service. 



Jazz2K said:

Relax man Win10 is only another place for MS to reach gamers that don't have an Xbox. It's not like you either support on or the other. Supporting both is good business imo, not everyone wants to buy a gaming PC and not everyone wants to buy consoles. Single platform releases will slowly fade away as gaming turns into a service. 

I'm quite relaxed. If you talked to me in person you'll actually find my way of typing and vocal talks are very different from one another.

Gaming as a service isn't really ideal for everyone though, please do take note of that.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
Jazz2K said:

Relax man Win10 is only another place for MS to reach gamers that don't have an Xbox. It's not like you either support on or the other. Supporting both is good business imo, not everyone wants to buy a gaming PC and not everyone wants to buy consoles. Single platform releases will slowly fade away as gaming turns into a service. 

I'm quite relaxed. If you talked to me in person you'll actually find my way of typing and vocal talks are very different from one another.

Gaming as a service isn't really ideal for everyone though, please do take note of that.

Imo gaming needs to be where movies and music are. You see a game, just pop it or download it and play it on the device you have. It's not a lesser game because of it being multi. No need to brag about how your device of choice sells more than the other and devs would have the biggest user base possible. Enough with the single platform development... then wars would be between games instead of consoles.