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Fear_Me_All said:
Titanic is and always going to be a classic.

So is Star Wars. Actually Star Wars is probably the singular largest thing ever to happen to movies period ... we're talking the *seventh* movie in the franchise after almost *40 years* is still doing massive business. There's nothing like that at all in the movie business, no one would care about Avatar 7 forty years later. 



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It's the brand name. The brand is worth a lot, but not the movies. Star Wars is more than just the movies now...



AsGryffynn said:
It's the brand name. The brand is worth a lot, but not the movies. Star Wars is more than just the movies now...

Yes, but at least 2 of its movies can be considered all time classics, it was also really revolutionary for cinema and the passion for them has not only survived but grown in the last 40 years, Titanic will stand in history for its high production values and high sales, not the quality of the movie itself, is not a terrible movie by any means, it did its job, but is far from being an all time classic let alone a masterpice.



Goodnightmoon said:
AsGryffynn said:
It's the brand name. The brand is worth a lot, but not the movies. Star Wars is more than just the movies now...

Yes, but at least 2 of its movies can be considered all time classics, it was also really revolutionary for cinema and the passion for them has not only survived but grown in the last 40 years, Titanic will stand in history for its high production values and high sales, not the quality of the movie itself, is not a terrible movie by any means, it did its job, but is far from being an all time classic let alone a masterpice.

Titanic also had "fad-ish" qualities to its run. It was a big deal to teenage girls of that time, but will my kids look at Titanic the same way? No. It is will be associated with the late 1990s and Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys and Jennifer Love Hewitt and the other teen cultural fads of the time. 

It's not a bad movie at all, it's a far better movie than Avatar, but the "Titanic craze" as it were is very much a late 1990s type of thing. 

Star Wars as a "craze" is still going on 40 years later and multi-generational, there are 7/8 year olds who are now huge Star Wars fans because of TFA. 



Star Wars was good, but TFA is... well...



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I'd rather see the prequels than Titanic. I mean, I don't know what's the appeal of Titanic. Don't tell me there are love relationships like that, I can't possibly relate with the plot or the characters. Everything is just too idealized, and I truly hate how Leo always comes to the rescue to save the girl. Titanic is full of awful stereotypes, and the fact that it has 12 Oscars just angers me a lot. Also, the climax is shit. C'mon, Lio, just get up to the fucking table, or at least try.

There are much better romantic films. I think Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a very good example. Relationships are flawed, they're not Disney-like.



Volterra_90 said:

I'd rather see the prequels than Titanic. I mean, I don't know what's the appeal of Titanic. Don't tell me there are love relationships like that, I can't possibly relate with the plot or the characters. Everything is just too idealized, and I truly hate how Leo always comes to the rescue to save the girl. Titanic is full of awful stereotypes, and the fact that it has 12 Oscars just angers me a lot. Also, the climax is shit. C'mon, Lio, just get up to the fucking table, or at least try.

There are much better romantic films. I think Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a very good example. Relationships are flawed, they're not Disney-like.

Real Life Titanic:

"Sorry Jack, you have nice hair .... but Cal has like a lot of money. Like a lot. And a life boat. I can't live in poverty, so uh, see ya.". 



Soundwave said:
Volterra_90 said:

I'd rather see the prequels than Titanic. I mean, I don't know what's the appeal of Titanic. Don't tell me there are love relationships like that, I can't possibly relate with the plot or the characters. Everything is just too idealized, and I truly hate how Leo always comes to the rescue to save the girl. Titanic is full of awful stereotypes, and the fact that it has 12 Oscars just angers me a lot. Also, the climax is shit. C'mon, Lio, just get up to the fucking table, or at least try.

There are much better romantic films. I think Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a very good example. Relationships are flawed, they're not Disney-like.

Real Life Titanic:

"Sorry Jack, you have nice hair .... but Cal has like a lot of money. Like a lot. And a life boat. I can't live in poverty, so uh, see ya.". 

Yeah, that wouldn't be cinematic material, that's for sure xDDDDD. The problem is I think that the relationship is too damn perfect that I can't find it relatable at all. Titanic is actually a sci-fi movie, more sci-fi than Aliens. So it's only build on bland and fake sentimentality, and I can't truly get over that, because it's a film which is supposed to make you feel, and if you can't relate with the characters it's a borefest. A veeeery long borefest. Because the plot is not outstanding precisely. It's obviously a character driven movie.



AsGryffynn said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
star wars > titanic

Said no one ever... 

You are funny



Chris Hu said:
Lawlight said:

I think you need to look up movies in general back then - not many movies made more than $500M back then. 

Don't bring up Deadpool or KFP3 as competition. By the time they were released, TFA was already ending its end - it made $10M this week worldwide. On top of that KFP3 basically flopped.

Wow I think you need to look up Kung Fu Panda 3's numbers again it didn't flop.  Also you need to know its still has a lot of markets where it hasn't been released yet it will add a lot more next month and its not until the 13th of April when it will be released in all markets around the world.  Its production budget was $145 and so far it made $262 so it already made more then enough not to be considered a flop.  Also TFA is not even close to ending its end it will be in theaters in North America for at least another 60 days.

$256M is not enough for a $145M movie to not be a flop. Sure, it got other countries to be released in but it made no bearing on TFA's gross since it had already slowed down significantly. TFA's run has ended basically.