January 2016 NPD Thread! PS4 #1

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LudicrousSpeed on 14 February 2016

LOL well technically wouldn't those bundles be less than $299 with all the free games? The problem with logic like that is that consumers don't think they way. If they are paying $399 then they view it as $399.

Any retail sales for $300? That's where it needs to be. That's where Xbone is going to get killed this month in NPD. All those people with thousands of dollars tax return checks and the Xbone and PS4 are the same price.

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ZhugeEX on 14 February 2016

Shadow1980 said:

ZhugeEX said:

That being said, I'm all for a more open industry where data is more widely available. But expecting people to leak that data when they're under NDA is wrong.

Meanwhile, in Japan...

Seriously, though, we need a U.S. version of MC. VGC could fill that role, but management is fine with ballpark estimates that they adjust after more accurate data from other sources come in, and even then there are some errors. Insular, secretive firms like NPD being the sole source of sales data are a detriment to gaming communities, especially ones like this one that specialize in game sales. This wasn't a problem when NPD was being open with the numbers, but now they're being hush-hush about everything, treating sales data as a secret that the common folk don't deserve to see anymore.

If we're now entering a dark age where we no longer get actual sales figures for the U.S., there's not a whole lot to discuss anymore. If that's going to be the new status quo, I think that once I've finished my big article on console sales (the ultimate goal of all the data curation and chart-making I've done during my tenure here), I may take a break from the community for a while to focus on other things.

What part of "expecting people to LEAK data" doesn't make sense here?

Media Create provide a public top 20 and subscribers get full access to data. That's not a leak, thats Media Create posting the numbers themselves in the public domain. NPD haven't provided numbers publicly (Outside of a few data points) for a few years now. Any numbers that have been posted during that time have come through leaks.

The issue of NPD not being open has been around for ages and I of course would love it if Liam Callahan was to disclose additional data points when providing media outlets with their report. But right now the reports can only be accessed by subscribers who have to sign a non-disclousre agreement. So continually asking them or expecting them to post data on VGChartz, NeoGAF or any other forum isn't the right way to approach it.

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tbone51 on 14 February 2016

NPD Feb pls?

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Farsala on 14 February 2016

LudicrousSpeed said:
LOL well technically wouldn't those bundles be less than $299 with all the free games? The problem with logic like that is that consumers don't think they way. If they are paying $399 then they view it as $399.

Any retail sales for $300? That's where it needs to be. That's where Xbone is going to get killed this month in NPD. All those people with thousands of dollars tax return checks and the Xbone and PS4 are the same price.

I am only counting the money. Gift card is more effective then a game. I am sure other retailers have different deals though.

The Target deal from 2014 for XB1 was basically only gift cards and it worked wonders.

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noname2200 on 15 February 2016

Yikes, Nintendo had a nasty month, even by recent standards!

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LudicrousSpeed said:

Where is the Xbox One $300 at? I haven't seen it that price anywhere in weeks. Not to imply it doesn't exist, just curious. If MS wants to sell closer to PS4, they clearly need to be cheaper. There's no reason for the weaker hardware to be the same price. Just like the Wii U still being $300 is a goddamn joke. But maybe Nintendo and MS like making money more than a higher bar on a sales chart, idk.

CosmicSex said:
Resident Evil Origins Collection - ~38k (73% PS4)
Life is Strange - ~27k (74.8% PS4)

Look at those results. Why aren't Xbox gamers buying these games I mean at most the PS4 should be getting 60% because of userbase advantage in the US. Something is missing from the equation for PS4 to get these windfall shares. I know Capcom is ultra unlikely to have another Xbox One exclusive with breaks like that.

RE sucks and LIS is a pretty niche title. Maybe it was advertised on PS4 more? Who knows.

so niche title are always selling better on playstation it's a fact right? phew thank god for playstation gamer to give those type of games a chance to sell^^

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Roronaa_chan on 15 February 2016

LudicrousSpeed said:

Where is the Xbox One $300 at? I haven't seen it that price anywhere in weeks. Not to imply it doesn't exist, just curious. If MS wants to sell closer to PS4, they clearly need to be cheaper. There's no reason for the weaker hardware to be the same price. Just like the Wii U still being $300 is a goddamn joke. But maybe Nintendo and MS like making money more than a higher bar on a sales chart, idk.

CosmicSex said:
Resident Evil Origins Collection - ~38k (73% PS4)
Life is Strange - ~27k (74.8% PS4)

Look at those results. Why aren't Xbox gamers buying these games I mean at most the PS4 should be getting 60% because of userbase advantage in the US. Something is missing from the equation for PS4 to get these windfall shares. I know Capcom is ultra unlikely to have another Xbox One exclusive with breaks like that.

RE sucks and LIS is a pretty niche title. Maybe it was advertised on PS4 more? Who knows.

Re sucks? Maybe for people with bad taste. Which..makes sense here.

X1 was sold for 300 (retail price, no "deal" with cards like already mentioned) on Amazon and Walmart. http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1183109&page=100000 one post there quotes the pictures with the prices.

BTW peeps it's pretty much confirmed by cream that the numbers were the ones in the OP because the Jan gap between PS4 and X1 was 98k.