Do you feel their quality has suffered due to outsourcing? Which particular games do you feel demonstrate this?

Well as I have said, the very reason that there is like 25 minutes (not 15 if you add the timeframe of everything as well as the last stage listed) is because, I am simply had thought up the examples off the top of my head and skimmed through them to get what I can highlight from that.  I am not as hard working as you imply though I guess I should thank you for the applause. I would've and evidently should have used Star Fox videos as well, but honestly I had things to do and places to be, and I honestly didn't want to put in the effort to prove my point. I thought that I mentioned to look up a Star Fox video, if you felt that any of those would prove your point you should have used that. 

In terms speeding up/foward, no they aren't significantly different and you very well know this. I'll let go of backwards and slow down because that is really a poor comparison, but its completely where I was going with my next sentence:  "The pace isn't decided by the game it was decided by you. "  As for the brackets I have no idea what you are talking about. What's truly confusing is what I bolded. I say that Star Fox was never simply on rails and I am apparently wrong, yet somehow the all ranged mode in Star Fox, which... is in Star Fox, is not on rails. So... basically Star Fox is simply on rails but a portion of it is not...

Also yes Star Fox was majorly on rails... Star Fox is also not simply and never was simply on rails. I think you're missing the point of this. Yes, it was never meant to stick to that formula. That is not an opinion. Should never stick to that formula. Haha sure we can say that part is an opinion if that benefits clarity. I'll get to the rest of this later...

Yes I criticized you for not completely reading everything in what I said. I stand by that and trust me I'll do that again very soon. Not only did I read what curl said, I'll quote it:

"I've seen a lot of people say that "at least Wii U is getting a Starfox game, Wii didn't", but if you ask me, Sin & Punishment 2 on Wii, by cult developer Treasure of Ikaruga and Gunstar Heroes fame, was more or less what a modern Starfox should be; a fast-paced, intense, and brutally challenging shooter that sticks to its on-rails roots while upping both the variety and complexity of its setpieces beyond any existing Starfox games. Personally, it impressed me more than anything I've seen so far from Starfox Zero.

I mean come on, how freaking cool would it be to have a Starfox game like this?

[video of S&P:SS Stage 7 part 1 of 3]

What do you think, would Starfox have been better served by getting these guys to handle it?"

Now going by what I quoted, which is everything, the only time when curl mentions Treasure's other IP's is literally in description of the dev Treasure. Curl begins by talking about those saying we at least got a Star Fox game and ends by asking if Treasure should have been the one to make it. At one point compares it to Star Fox Zero. Literally everywhere else, which is literally everywhere I bolded, curl talks about how S&P 2 is what a modern Star Fox should be. Curl even posted a video asking "how freaking cool would it be to have a Starfox game like" S&P. Where's the confusion? What words am I putting into Curl's mouth? What is the OP saying that I am ignoring if its  the main point? That Treasure created Gun Star Heroes? In all seriousness, are you joking?

Here's where I criticize you again for snipping my quotes. The problem with what you are saying here is that you call information useless and then somehow proceed to misinform yourself. I shouldn't have to re-mention or re-say what I have sai already and have said clearly. Remember when I said I'd answer your little question about where Star Fox should go from here? Guess what? I already adressed this. Yes, I adressed this in a post that you extrapolated a snippet of information from for your case. Its befuddling. What's funny is that one word "whilst" is the singular word in each line that makes you say its useless information, and you brush off what I wrote at best, as an apology. What am I apologizing for again? Am I apologizing that Sin and Punishment: Star Successor is one of my favorite games of all time? To who? I don't feel ashamed of it being one of my favorite games of all time, so no, not apologizing for that. The only thing here that belong in pre-19th century is the idea that you can omit information available and think it makes sense to proceed and act as if that information doesn't exist.

You say all you need is the opinion. What you need to do is go back, actually read what I wrote, read the OP, read what you wrote and get the information that is readily there so that you can amicably apologize for accusing me of putting words in someone's mouth whilst, yes whilst, understanding what I said about the future of the Star Fox. Or you can own up to none of that and simply stop where you are. That is my opinion.

Some yes, but most of it is "feel". Take Wooly World for example. It's a fine game and my and my daughter enjoyed playing through it, but I never felt like it had that Nintendo atmosphere. Something about the music was off. Turns out, the composer worked for feel-good, which was the developer behind the game. 

Sometimes it works out (DKC/Metroid Prime) other times, not (Starfox Adventures).

After reading all your posts, including this one, I'll just say it's been a pleasure, peace out, see you around the forums, etc.

What the hell is treasure even doing these days? They're one of those devs that Nintendo should have bought up years ago

"Or you can own up to none of that and simply stop where you are. That is my opinion."

Its always a pleasure when someone tries to call you out on several things and when they can't back up anything they say and act like this. See ya

Platinum Games is going to do an amazing job, no need to bring Treasure into its development. Who'd do a better job? Don't know, I'll have to actually wait and play the Platinum Games version (being I already played Sin and Punishment 2).

They are also making a new schmup shooter for steam. That's the only thing official. Their last major game was Gate Crush 1/2 for Capcom.

No, I actually just conviently interacted with Einsam for the first time after this disagreemment, and my interaction has been in disagreement. 

I simply don't like being misquoted or accused of misquoting when I didn't, especially when I have to explain how I didn't misquote. 

Out of curiosity did you earn that "master troll" thing or put that on yourself? I'm not asking because of your qustion I just wanted to know since yesterday.

Here's an idea! Why don't we play Starfox Zero first? It might be good...