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Lonely_Dolphin on 06 February 2016
Nem said:

I still think that MP4 would sell more on hype alone. Its obvious DKC was a game that was wished for, but TF wasnt. It was too soon for another DKC, but not for another metroid prime.

 

So you'd rather take arbitrary rules and assumptions over hard data, okay then...

 

Alkibiádēs said:

It sold 600k more, and MP1 & 2 also sold more. Userbase doesn't matter for the Metroid franchise.

 

Yep, it's too niche to matter. 

 

wombat123 said:

To be fair, I'd estimate that a little less than half of that 100m install base on the Wii would be what you'd call 'core gamers' based on the sales numbers for some of Nintendo's significant non-casual games (Animal Crossing, Smash, 3D Mario and mainline Zelda for example) compared to similar series entries on the Gamecube.  The only games I can remember off-hand that got significant boosts becuase of the casual crowd (besides casual games) were 2D platformers, Mario Kart and party games.

 

Not seeing your point here. Who exactly the games sold to is irrelevant unless you're trying to explain why the Metroid base is louder.



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wombat123 on 06 February 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
wombat123 said:

To be fair, I'd estimate that a little less than half of that 100m install base on the Wii would be what you'd call 'core gamers' based on the sales numbers for some of Nintendo's significant non-casual games (Animal Crossing, Smash, 3D Mario and mainline Zelda for example) compared to similar series entries on the Gamecube.  The only games I can remember off-hand that got significant boosts becuase of the casual crowd (besides casual games) were 2D platformers, Mario Kart and party games.

Not seeing your point here. Who exactly the games sold to is irrelevant unless you're trying to explain why the Metroid base is louder.

The original point was stating how Metroid Prime 3 sold only a couple of extra hundred thousands compared to Tropical Freeze even when the Wii had a userbase of 100m. Selling close to 2m on a userbase of 100m sounds a hell of a lot worse than selling close to 2m on a userbase of around 45-50m core gamers.  That being said, I think a Metroid Prime game would have had a negligible sales increase compared to Tropical Freeze (if any) but I think it would have moved more consoles considering it would have been Metroid's first HD game (and an HD Prime game would have probably looked spectacular enough to entice people on visuals alone), fans were thirsty and wanted to get the taste of Other M out of their mouths, it would have stood out in the sea of Wii U 2D platformers and it might have turned into the deciding factor in convincing many people who didn't care for the majority of Nitnendo's kid-friendly 1st party games to buy a Wii U.



Lonely_Dolphin on 06 February 2016
wombat123 said:

The original point was stating how Metroid Prime 3 sold only a couple of extra hundred thousands compared to Tropical Freeze even when the Wii had a userbase of 100m. Selling close to 2m on a userbase of 100m sounds a hell of a lot worse than selling close to 2m on a userbase of around 45-50m core gamers.  That being said, I think a Metroid Prime game would have had a negligible sales increase compared to Tropical Freeze (if any) but I think it would have moved more consoles considering it would have been Metroid's first HD game (and an HD Prime game would have probably looked spectacular enough to entice people on visuals alone), fans were thirsty and wanted to get the taste of Other M out of their mouths, it would have stood out in the sea of Wii U 2D platformers and it might have turned into the deciding factor in convincing many people who didn't care for the majority of Nitnendo's kid-friendly 1st party games to buy a Wii U.

So you're saying Metroid would have succeeded where every other Wii U game ever has failed. Also it's more logical to assume the games that sell more also move more consoles as long as we have no real way to prove how many systems each game has moved.



wombat123 on 06 February 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
wombat123 said:

The original point was stating how Metroid Prime 3 sold only a couple of extra hundred thousands compared to Tropical Freeze even when the Wii had a userbase of 100m. Selling close to 2m on a userbase of 100m sounds a hell of a lot worse than selling close to 2m on a userbase of around 45-50m core gamers.  That being said, I think a Metroid Prime game would have had a negligible sales increase compared to Tropical Freeze (if any) but I think it would have moved more consoles considering it would have been Metroid's first HD game (and an HD Prime game would have probably looked spectacular enough to entice people on visuals alone), fans were thirsty and wanted to get the taste of Other M out of their mouths, it would have stood out in the sea of Wii U 2D platformers and it might have turned into the deciding factor in convincing many people who didn't care for the majority of Nitnendo's kid-friendly 1st party games to buy a Wii U.

So you're saying Metroid would have succeeded where every other Wii U game ever has failed. Also it's more logical to assume the games that sell more also move more consoles as long as we have no real way to prove how many systems each game has moved.

No, I said that I thought a Metroid Prime game would have done a better job at moving consoles than Tropical Freeze.



JGarret on 06 February 2016

DK Tropical Freeze is an excellent game, but it absolutely was not what they needed.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 06 February 2016
wombat123 said:

No, I said that I thought a Metroid Prime would have done a better job at moving consoles than Tropical Freeze.

 

Well neither would move a significant amount so whether that's true or not doesn't really matter. It's fine that you belive that, but Retro was definitely in the right to think otherwise, I mean you couldn't expect them to have just completely ignored the sales of MP3 and DKCR.

 

JGarret said:
DK Tropical Freeze is an excellent game, but it absolutely was not what they needed.

 

Nintendo doesn't need excellent games, lol whut.



Soundwave on 06 February 2016
wombat123 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

So you're saying Metroid would have succeeded where every other Wii U game ever has failed. Also it's more logical to assume the games that sell more also move more consoles as long as we have no real way to prove how many systems each game has moved.

No, I said that I thought a Metroid Prime game would have done a better job at moving consoles than Tropical Freeze.

 

It's nice to want things. A Metroid Prime series that didn't move GameCubes or Wiis is now magically going to sell Wii Us. 

I *remember* fall 2002 where everyone and their grandma hyped up Metroid Prime to give GameCube a boost like Halo did to the XBox, instead the XBox outsold GCN that holiday. 

If you would have preferred a 4th Metroid Prime instead of a 2nd DKC game ... great, just say so, but lets not act like that series has ever been some hardware seller. 



Kuksenkov on 06 February 2016

Splatoon has more appeal to more demographics, and it also got a much bigger marketing campaign than Donkey Kong.

Also, another 2D platformer when the eShop is filled with them. Yoshi broke that rule though, but that game is pure love.

I hope Zelda U flops. Get it together Nintendo, the franchise is being milked with those remakes/remasters/spinoffs and the only new main entry games have a gap of 3-4 years in between. Just let it take a break!



JOKA_ on 06 February 2016

People really do love first person shooters?



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Pavolink on 06 February 2016
Kuksenkov said:
Splatoon has more appeal to more demographics, and it also got a much bigger marketing campaign than Donkey Kong.

Also, another 2D platformer when the eShop is filled with them. Yoshi broke that rule though, but that game is pure love.

I hope Zelda U flops. Get it together Nintendo, the franchise is being milked with those remakes/remasters/spinoffs and the only new main entry games have a gap of 3-4 years in between. Just let it take a break!

The gap on homeconsoles is 5 years and I agree that they are milking so much. Time to go back to develop great games every 2-3 years and only original games. No more remakes or spin offs. Or at least make it more sparse.



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