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Ajax said:

And Cloud dying in FF7?
Whoever wrote this article is really getting things twisted in the brain. So she want a different game.
No actually, she want a game that suites perfectly for her. She wasnts a private game for herself.

Why does this kind of dellusional stuff get so much attention, also by us here at vgc..
Unbelievable..

 

Not dellusional. She's a fan that wants some changes, nothing wrong with that.

Fans sometimes are disappointed with the results and ask for certain revisions or changes. Look at Mass Effect 3. Altered the original endings because fans demanded so.



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Wright said:
Ajax said:

And Cloud dying in FF7?
Whoever wrote this article is really getting things twisted in the brain. So she want a different game.
No actually, she want a game that suites perfectly for her. She wasnts a private game for herself.

Why does this kind of dellusional stuff get so much attention, also by us here at vgc..
Unbelievable..

 

Not dellusional. She's a fan that wants some changes, nothing wrong with that.

Fans sometimes are disappointed with the results and ask for certain revisions or changes. Look at Mass Effect 3. Altered the original endings because fans demanded so.

Yeah, the fans of FFVII were super disappointed... 



Wright said:
Ajax said:

And Cloud dying in FF7?
Whoever wrote this article is really getting things twisted in the brain. So she want a different game.
No actually, she want a game that suites perfectly for her. She wasnts a private game for herself.

Why does this kind of dellusional stuff get so much attention, also by us here at vgc..
Unbelievable..

 

Not dellusional. She's a fan that wants some changes, nothing wrong with that.

Fans sometimes are disappointed with the results and ask for certain revisions or changes. Look at Mass Effect 3. Altered the original endings because fans demanded so.

 

She is not a FFVII fan. She might think and say she is, but she is not, which is made clear by her words. Please read them again. 



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mornelithe said:
Wright said:
Ajax said:

And Cloud dying in FF7?
Whoever wrote this article is really getting things twisted in the brain. So she want a different game.
No actually, she want a game that suites perfectly for her. She wasnts a private game for herself.

Why does this kind of dellusional stuff get so much attention, also by us here at vgc..
Unbelievable..

 

Not dellusional. She's a fan that wants some changes, nothing wrong with that.

Fans sometimes are disappointed with the results and ask for certain revisions or changes. Look at Mass Effect 3. Altered the original endings because fans demanded so.

Yeah, the fans of FFVII were super disappointed... 

I am disappointed. Why do you care bout what I want?



"I look at Tifa and realize now how over-sexualized she is; less a character and more a caricature of womanhood made to pander to teenage boys that can’t appreciate a fighting woman unless she’s also a sex toy."

Or it could simply be argued that Tifa, the martial artist who runs a bar, plays the piano and kicks all kinds of ass, is a character for young teenage girls to look up to.

At 15 years old she charged the greatest soldier on the planet with a big fucking sword and lived to fight another day. Tifa is a bona fide badass.

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"Lastly, and most offensively, is the treatment of women in the game. Cid is an alcoholic (what do you think he meant by “tea” in that notorious scene?) abuser of his assistant, Shera, and there’s a silent endorsement on the part of the other characters when they refuse to acknowledge or confront him about his disgusting actions."

"This can be solved really easily – just add a few lines of dialogue where Shera stands up for herself, where the rest of the team can step in on her side. Cid can apologise, and you should be able to choose whether or not the apology is accepted, either accepting Cid onto the team or leaving him where he is. "

Welcome to the real world, where strangers simply do not barge in on other peoples business. Furthermore, if you actually played the game you would know why he resents her and you would know that in the end, he forgives her. Hell, they get married at a later date. He isn't being a dick to her because she's a woman, he's being a dick to her because she ruined his dream.

You change the way Cid acts towards Shera, you change his character entirely. Him forgiving her and realising what a dick he's been is a key part of building him as a character. Simply adding in an appology so early on would ruin the moment where he understands what really happened. Idiotic.

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"Cloud should die in the place of Aerith.

I know that saying this will upset a lot of people, but it makes sense on so many levels. Cloud is a blank slate whose life is mostly a lie. Aerith is the last surviving Cetra, whose existence has profound meaning—from that alone, it’s easy to see that Cloud’s life has less weight than Aerith’s, and further, the game wouldn’t have to change from that point onwards
."

This is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever read in regards to changing things in videogames.



                            

kurasakiichimaru said:
mornelithe said:

Yeah, the fans of FFVII were super disappointed... 

I am disappointed. Why do you care bout what I want?

I don't.  I didn't respond to you.  So, unless you're Wrights alt account, I think we were done before you even started.



Carl2291 said:

"I look at Tifa and realize now how over-sexualized she is; less a character and more a caricature of womanhood made to pander to teenage boys that can’t appreciate a fighting woman unless she’s also a sex toy."

Or it could simply be argued that Tifa, the martial artist who runs a bar, plays the piano and kicks all kinds of ass, is a character for young teenage girls to look up to.

At 15 years old she charged the greatest soldier on the planet with a big fucking sword and lived to fight another day. Tifa is a bona fide badass.

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"Lastly, and most offensively, is the treatment of women in the game. Cid is an alcoholic (what do you think he meant by “tea” in that notorious scene?) abuser of his assistant, Shera, and there’s a silent endorsement on the part of the other characters when they refuse to acknowledge or confront him about his disgusting actions."

"This can be solved really easily – just add a few lines of dialogue where Shera stands up for herself, where the rest of the team can step in on her side. Cid can apologise, and you should be able to choose whether or not the apology is accepted, either accepting Cid onto the team or leaving him where he is. "

Welcome to the real world, where strangers simply do not barge in on other peoples business. Furthermore, if you actually played the game you would know why he resents her and you would know that in the end, he forgives her. Hell, they get married at a later date. He isn't being a dick to her because she's a woman, he's being a dick to her because she ruined his dream.

You change the way Cid acts towards Shera, you change his character entirely. Him forgiving her and realising what a dick he's been is a key part of building him as a character. Simply adding in an appology so early on would ruin the moment where he understands what really happened. Idiotic.

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"Cloud should die in the place of Aerith.

I know that saying this will upset a lot of people, but it makes sense on so many levels. Cloud is a blank slate whose life is mostly a lie. Aerith is the last surviving Cetra, whose existence has profound meaning—from that alone, it’s easy to see that Cloud’s life has less weight than Aerith’s, and further, the game wouldn’t have to change from that point onwards
."

This is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever read in regards to changing things in videogames.

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mornelithe said:

Yeah, the fans of FFVII were super disappointed... 

Well, disappointment sometimes come at a delayed rate. This author realized it now. Maybe some more FFVII players are starting to see things they didn't like until now?

 

Ajax said:
Wright said:

Not dellusional. She's a fan that wants some changes, nothing wrong with that.

Fans sometimes are disappointed with the results and ask for certain revisions or changes. Look at Mass Effect 3. Altered the original endings because fans demanded so.

She is not a FFVII fan. She might think and say she is, but she is not, which is made clear by her words. Please read them again. 

 

She wants Aerith to live. That sole fact makes her a biggest fan that all of us! Bet she tried all those "how to revive Aerith" methods in his younghood only to came out disappointed.

 

Also, as a side note, I'm talking to two Ryu's at once!