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bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:


Where on that link does it say that Bandai Namco was polled? I don't recall seeing that name when I read it originally, nor could I find it by searching for keywords.

I was more reading between the lines being there was a link to the rumor that "Namco Bandai had several NX games in development" in the statement. But true enough it never really gave the company name that polled yes.



So in other words, you just kind of made that up?

Moot point anyway. I read Hiku's response to the matter after my post, and he pretty much made my argument for me already, and much better than I ever could.



Okay. But you do know this entire thread is made up of leaps of faith, and nothing concrete, right....



 

Nothing is concrete. NX may never even come out (where's Quality of Life, Nintendo?). 

Iwata DID say they were working on a new definition of a gaming platform in 2014 and that would take them roughly 2 years to realize. 

They DID sign a deal with Sharp in 2014 for free-form LCDs which will begin mass produciton in early 2016. They DID file a patent for a game controller/device with a free form display. 

They likely have have given third parties NX development kits last year, Nikkei has been very reliable on Nintendo news in the past, so I count that as fairly solid too. 

Those are three things to me that are fairly concrete. It doesn't neccessarily point to any singular conclusion. 



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Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:


Where on that link does it say that Bandai Namco was polled? I don't recall seeing that name when I read it originally, nor could I find it by searching for keywords.

I was more reading between the lines being there was a link to the rumor that "Namco Bandai had several NX games in development" in the statement. But true enough it never really gave the company name that polled yes.



So in other words, you just kind of made that up?

Moot point anyway. I read Hiku's response to the matter after my post, and he pretty much made my argument for me already, and much better than I ever could.



Okay. But you do know this entire thread is made up of leaps of faith, and nothing concrete, right....



 

Nothing is concrete. NX may never even come out (where's Quality of Life, Nintendo?). 

Iwata DID say they were working on a new definition of a gaming platform in 2014 and that would take them roughly 2 years to realize. 

They DID sign a deal with Sharp in 2014 for free-form LCDs which will begin mass produciton in early 2016. They DID file a patent for a game controller/device with a free form display. 

They likely have have given third parties NX development kits last year, Nikkei has been very reliable on Nintendo news in the past, so I count that as fairly solid too. 

Those are three things to me that are fairly concrete. It doesn't neccessarily point to any singular conclusion. 

They are a lot more concrete than anything the people who believe it will launch in 2017 can find.





TruckOSaurus said:
I'd be worried if Nintendo does release the NX this year because I don't believe they've had nearly enough time to prepare a software lineup that will make that new console appealing to the general public.

 

With a unified platform that combines the software of the handheld & console, I think they would be fine.

EAD Group 1 has consistently released a new Mario Kart roughly every 3 years (DS-2005, Wii-2008, 3DS-2011, Wii U-2014) while also working on smaller projects (2005-Nintendogs, 2008-DSi Sound, 2011-Nintendogs+Cats, 2014/2015-MK8 DLC). A new Mario Kart for NX in Spring 2017 should be possible.

EAD Group 2 has pretty stellar output. 2005-Animal Crossing: Wild World, 2006-Wii Sports & Wii Play, 2008-Animal Crossing: City Folk & Wii Music, 2009-Wii Sports Resort, 2012-Animal Crossing: New Leaf & Nintendo Land, 2015-Splatoon & Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer. They also worked on applications like Mii Channel, WaraWara Plaza & Animal Crossing Plaza while co-developing games like Star Fox Command & Wii Sports Club. I don't think it's too farfetched for them to have at least one NX game out by the end of 2017 with another title in 2018.

EAD Group 3 is currently developing The Legend of Zelda for Wii U but if NX does release this holiday than its very likely that it will be a cross-gen title just like Twilight Princess was. 2D Zelda releases every 2-4 years (Four Swords Adventures-2004, Phantom Hourglass-2007, Spirit Tracks-2009, Link Between Worlds-2013, Triforce Heroes-2015). I expect a new one in 2018.

EAD Group 4 is responsible for Pikmin & 2D Mario, Miyamoto recently said Pikmin 4 was nearing completion, it may be a late life Wii U game or perhaps a launch window title for NX. As for 2D Mario, it releases about every 3 years (NSMB-2006, NSMB Wii-2009, NSMB2/U-2012, Mario Maker-2015) so a new one probably won't release until 2018.

EAD Tokyo releases a console 3D Mario every 3 years (Galaxy 2007, Galaxy 2-2010, 3D World-2013) while releasing a smaller project in between (Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat NPC-2008, 3D Land-2011, Captain Toad-2014). A new 3D Mario for holiday 2016 or sometime in 2017 with a smaller project about a year later in plausible.

Game Freak releases a new Pokémon generation every 3-4 years (1996, 1999, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2013) along with 3rd versions/sequels/remakes releasing in between. Pokémon generation 7 in 2017 in very likely.

Retro Studios releases a new game a little over every 3 years (Prime 3-Aug 2007, DKC Returns-Nov 2010, Tropical Freeze-Feb 2014) so a new game from them in mid-2017 is likely.

ND Cube has a pretty high output of party games (Wii Party-Q3 2010, Mario Party 9-Q1 2011, Wii Party U & Mario Party: Island Tour-Q4 2013, Mario Party 10-Q1 2015, Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival-Q4 2015. I think a new party game in 2017 is possible.

Hal Laboratories releases a new Kirby roughly every 2 years (Canvas Curse-2005, Squeak Squad-2007, Super Star Ultra-2008, Mass Attack & Return to Dreamland-2011, Triple Deluxe-2014, Rainbow Curse-2015. A new Kirby in 2017 or 2018 at the latest.

The majority of internal Nintendo teams & subsidiaries projects should be releasing between Holiday 2016-2018.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
Whatever they do, I'll just be curious to see how things go. Surely I won't buy any console this year, I haven't even time to play all the games in my PC backlog and for some I'll have to upgrade my PC before it's technically possible, but I'm curious anyway. I hope they release the portable first, because I fear that if they release their next home console too early they could hurt both themselves and the whole market seriously.

Gens should end with Wii U and 3DS. NX must be a new bussiness model.

 

TruckOSaurus said:
I'd be worried if Nintendo does release the NX this year because I don't believe they've had nearly enough time to prepare a software lineup that will make that new console appealing to the general public.

Eh, considering all the droughts and delays, I'm pretty sure they have enough resources to develop NX games ready to launch in 2016 and 2017.



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Pavolink said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Whatever they do, I'll just be curious to see how things go. Surely I won't buy any console this year, I haven't even time to play all the games in my PC backlog and for some I'll have to upgrade my PC before it's technically possible, but I'm curious anyway. I hope they release the portable first, because I fear that if they release their next home console too early they could hurt both themselves and the whole market seriously.

Gens should end with Wii U and 3DS. NX must be a new bussiness model.

 

TruckOSaurus said:
I'd be worried if Nintendo does release the NX this year because I don't believe they've had nearly enough time to prepare a software lineup that will make that new console appealing to the general public.

Eh, considering all the droughts and delays, I'm pretty sure they have enough resources to develop NX games ready to launch in 2016 and 2017.

Well that's what we thought about the Wii U as well. I remember thinking the launch lineup would be packed since Nintendo had completely abandonned the Wii two years before the Wii U released.



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burninmylight said:
Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:


Where on that link does it say that Bandai Namco was polled? I don't recall seeing that name when I read it originally, nor could I find it by searching for keywords.

I was more reading between the lines being there was a link to the rumor that "Namco Bandai had several NX games in development" in the statement. But true enough it never really gave the company name that polled yes.



So in other words, you just kind of made that up?

Moot point anyway. I read Hiku's response to the matter after my post, and he pretty much made my argument for me already, and much better than I ever could.



Okay. But you do know this entire thread is made up of leaps of faith, and nothing concrete, right....



 

Nothing is concrete. NX may never even come out (where's Quality of Life, Nintendo?). 

Iwata DID say they were working on a new definition of a gaming platform in 2014 and that would take them roughly 2 years to realize. 

They DID sign a deal with Sharp in 2014 for free-form LCDs which will begin mass produciton in early 2016. They DID file a patent for a game controller/device with a free form display. 

They likely have have given third parties NX development kits last year, Nikkei has been very reliable on Nintendo news in the past, so I count that as fairly solid too. 

Those are three things to me that are fairly concrete. It doesn't neccessarily point to any singular conclusion. 

They are a lot more concrete than anything the people who believe it will launch in 2017 can find.



I think 3 generations of reveal to release history is more concrete than anything here. They also didn't even metion the NX in their financial report.



TruckOSaurus said:
Pavolink said:

Gens should end with Wii U and 3DS. NX must be a new bussiness model.

 

Eh, considering all the droughts and delays, I'm pretty sure they have enough resources to develop NX games ready to launch in 2016 and 2017.

Well that's what we thought about the Wii U as well. I remember thinking the launch lineup would be packed since Nintendo had completely abandonned the Wii two years before the Wii U released.

Second time in the day that people awaken my Nintendo's fears.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:


Where on that link does it say that Bandai Namco was polled? I don't recall seeing that name when I read it originally, nor could I find it by searching for keywords.

I was more reading between the lines being there was a link to the rumor that "Namco Bandai had several NX games in development" in the statement. But true enough it never really gave the company name that polled yes.



So in other words, you just kind of made that up?

Moot point anyway. I read Hiku's response to the matter after my post, and he pretty much made my argument for me already, and much better than I ever could.



Okay. But you do know this entire thread is made up of leaps of faith, and nothing concrete, right....



 

Nothing is concrete. NX may never even come out (where's Quality of Life, Nintendo?). 

Iwata DID say they were working on a new definition of a gaming platform in 2014 and that would take them roughly 2 years to realize. 

They DID sign a deal with Sharp in 2014 for free-form LCDs which will begin mass produciton in early 2016. They DID file a patent for a game controller/device with a free form display. 

They likely have have given third parties NX development kits last year, Nikkei has been very reliable on Nintendo news in the past, so I count that as fairly solid too. 

Those are three things to me that are fairly concrete. It doesn't neccessarily point to any singular conclusion. 

They are a lot more concrete than anything the people who believe it will launch in 2017 can find.



I think 3 generations of reveal to release history is more concrete than anything here. They also didn't even metion the NX in their financial report.

Not when you consider how fast tech is moving these days people see it then want it right away waiting 1 1/2 - 2 years from reveal to release is to long for the mordern times.



RolStoppable said:
Pavolink said:

Second time in the day that people awaken my Nintendo's fears.

Well, the concern isn't unfounded.

The difference this time around is that there isn't a handheld that is gobbling up resources and, on top of that, behind schedule.

I can only hope.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


burninmylight said:
Nintyfan90 said:
Soundwave said:
Nintyfan90 said:

Soundwaves proof isn't really proof though. It's much more personal opinion and spin. His ideas of a hanheld, micro console, and pro console are clear fantasy.



 

Everyone's NX concepts here are fantasy unless someone here is claiming to work at Nintendo R&D. 

A $199 portable 3DS-2 with a relatively crap processor + screen and a $299 console that's about a PS4 in power is also "fantasy", but most here think that's what Nintendo will do ... even though this is basically the same thing they did this generation to huge marketshare losses. 

All you did reinforce what I was saying. No proof exist about a 2016 launch besides pr spin. He made it seem like your ideas were coming from some unquestionable source.



 

Wrong. You completely missed the subject (hint: it's in the thread's title). I have never once said Soundwave's theory about what the NX is is right or wrong. It's just a theory at this point, no matter if he states it's his opinion or says it as if it were fact. He knows exactly as much about what it is as you or me.

I have also never said Soundwave is unquestionably correct in his stance about the NX coming in 2016; I've never said that it definitely is or is not either. However, Soundwave, unlike most of those arguing for a 2017 release, is posting sources for his reasoning and presenting them in a detailed, logical manner. He is showing you WHY he believes what he believes. Whether or not you agree, you have to at least respect it, because you have the means to understand why he believes it. Even when I disagree with someone's viewpoints and opinions, I can appreciate them when they show me some reasonable sources and explain them well.

You can call it "pr spin" all you want, but let's see you show us something more substantial. I've been waiting for it, and I'm not so staunch and stubborn that I can't see reasonable proof in the other side's favor. I'm open to anything worth looking into, so show me what you got.

Lol no, all he does is take sources which are mostly pr statements spin or rumors. You clearly believe his sources which is what I was saying. Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels. It safe to say Soundwave doesn't know what he's talking about because he's speaking from a FANS perspective. Wiiu release schedule looks no more worst than any other WiiU year which any nintyfan can tell you, a final year for Ninty looks much worst than the other years. Pokken Tounament isnt some side project from them, it's probably the main poke games home consoles are gonna get. All of that tells me, just because you, Soundwave, or anyone aren't content with WiiU performance, library, or finances doesn't mean shit to Ninty. They will ride with what they have until the time is right.