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I think we will know for sure around Aprile, definitely before FY which will be 7. May.



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zorg1000 said:

Aeolus451 said:

Ok let's say that NX releases in this year in november and it launches with (for example) 10 games and 8 more games were released throughout the rest of 2016 and up to November of 2017. Why not wait to launch til November of 2017 to have a stronger launch lineup with those 18 games?

 

Are you just talking about Nintendo-published games & exclusives? If so, it would make no sense to launch with 18 games, even 10 would be stupid for that matter, they would be cannibalize each others sales.

If you're talking about multiplats than its still stupid because it would just be padding out the launch lineup with late ports which would sell terrible and do nothing for hardware sales.

 


Those numbers (10 and 18) were just examples. Anyway, it's not like I'm saying to launch NX with 18 platformers. If the launch games are from various genres. they wouldn't compete with eachother a great deal. The main thing is that would make the NX more appealing to consumers (not just nintendo fans) and it would give gamers plenty to play right off the bat. Not everyone likes Mario's Adventure 15: Wario's rampage and Zelda: The Link that never gets old. Variety is the spice of life.

In regards to third parties, who says that any ports to NX have to be late? Can't nintendo woo some 3rd parties to porting a a few games to the NX, when those devs were gonna release the game in nov '17 anyway. At the very least, nintendo can pay for ports that release right along with the PS4 and Xbox one.

What helps hardware sales is people being interested in the console and games are the only things that will get people interested. 



Aeolus451 said:
zorg1000 said:

 

Are you just talking about Nintendo-published games & exclusives? If so, it would make no sense to launch with 18 games, even 10 would be stupid for that matter, they would be cannibalize each others sales.

If you're talking about multiplats than its still stupid because it would just be padding out the launch lineup with late ports which would sell terrible and do nothing for hardware sales.

 


Those numbers (10 and 18) were just examples. Anyway, it's not like I'm saying to launch NX with 18 platformers. If the launch games are from various genres. they wouldn't compete with eachother a great deal. The main thing is that would make the NX more appealing to consumers (not just nintendo fans) and it would give gamers plenty to play right off the bat. Not everyone likes Mario's Adventure 15: Wario's rampage and Zelda: The Link that never gets old. Variety is the spice of life.

In regards to third parties, who says that any ports to NX have to be late? Can't nintendo woo some 3rd parties to porting a a few games to the NX, when those devs were gonna release the game in nov '17 anyway. At the very least, nintendo can pay for ports that release right along with the PS4 and Xbox one.

What helps hardware sales is people being interested in the console and games are the only things that will get people interested. 

 

Ya variety is great, still 10-18 Nintendo games would be overkill and would hurt individual sales, regardless of when it releases 2-4 Nintendo exclusives in the launch window is what we will get and that's a sufficient amount. Nintendo is constantly criticized for droughts, blowing their load at launch would just cause a large post-launch drought.

As for 3rd parties, go back and read ur previous post, "Ok let's say that NX releases in this year in november and it launches with (for example) 10 games and 8 more games were released throughout the rest of 2016 and up to November of 2017. Why not wait to launch til November of 2017 to have a stronger launch lineup with those 18 games?"

Ur saying holiday 2017 will have more games because they can release games finished from Q4 2016-Q3 2017 all in Q4 2017, hence why I said it would just be padding the launch window with late ports.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

The NX will be revealed at E3. Rumors have been going around since last year that devs have already had their hands on dev kits.



burninmylight said:
bigtakilla said:
burninmylight said:
PerturbedKitty said:
Soundwave said:
PerturbedKitty said:

youre participating in the hysteria, dont act like youre above it lol. this is like the third time ive seen you do this. recognize that youre playing in the mud just like the rest of us. 

im enjoying my wii u right now. if the nx were to come out this year (it isnt) i would get it the day it comes out and enjoy the fuck out of it. of course i would, as would my allies thunderbird, bigtakilla, and others. would you not agree that the timing is an important consideration when releasing new hardware?



 

The "hysteria" is the illogical belief that a system is some how "better" if it reaches some arbitrary date, which is bullshit. We know how Nintendo supports its consoles for the the final 11-12 months anyway ... it's basically barren (the N64 hillariously had ONE ... ONE fucking game from Nintendo for its final 12 months, GameCube was miserable its final 12 months, so was Wii). 

I don't see the "glory" in that 5th year, if Nintendo wants to skip that "12 months of shit" phase, hey great. 

I don't think timing in this case makes a huge difference. I doubt Nintendo is making a PS5-tier console either way, and if they're not then it's probably better to release earlier than later. 

soundwave.. take a deep breath with me here. ok, ready? *breathes in deeply* *breathes out*

alright, feel better?

the n64 from my memory had Dr. Mario, Paper Mario, and Mario Party 3. could be wrong, but i believe those were all 2001 releases. im well versed in nintendo games and their release dates. regardless, id agree with you about the last 12 months, everybody knows that. how could any company support their old console in the last year when preparing for the launch of their new one? thats where third party developers come in. 

anyways, i would respond to your other points, but im bored now. and i think we've already established that we are arch nemesis rivals who will rarely agree on anything. 

 

Making someone sound like a rabid madman when that person hasn't made any personal attacks against you or shown any sign of losing control; this is essentially putting them down and/or flaming.

Soundwave hasn't done anything to warrant that kind of response from you, unless you consider sound and consistent arguments based on evidence coming from sources that he has shown you to be bad  in some way. Basically, this post was in poor taste, and your little "Let's all be friends!" post that came later doesn't make up for that. If you're no longer interested in the discussion or have nothing more to add, then either say so, or don't respond at all.

You don't believe the NX is coming this year. We get it. The least you could do is acknowledge the evidence and reasoning of those who do believe so. Because right now, they sound a lot more grounded in reality than the people in your camp.

 

You accuse someone of flaming and then say this, all the while not bringing anything new to add or acknowledging our evidence and reasoning. Please practice what you preach, lol.

Yeah, let's just throw all reading comprehension and context out of the window and ignore the whole point of my post earlier...

If you want me to copy and paste all of the points that have been made earlier in the thread, then sure, I can do that. I don't know why though. You'll still ignore it and stick to your, "There is no way the NX is coming this year because it's an iron-clad law a console generation has to  be at least five years" mantra.

There, I acknowledged your evidence and reasoning. It makes sense, and history is on your side. Better?

What's your point again exactly? Lol.

That there are hints the NX may come out in 2016 (home console wise, I actually think the handheld will launch this year)? Sure, but I don't think it will. 

And if my evidence and reasoning make sense, it would seem there's more behind my reasoning than my "There is no way the NX is coming this year because it's an iron-clad law a console generation has to  be at least five years" mantra (which strangely enough is a mantra that doesn't even exist).





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zorg1000 said:
Aeolus451 said:

 


Those numbers (10 and 18) were just examples. Anyway, it's not like I'm saying to launch NX with 18 platformers. If the launch games are from various genres. they wouldn't compete with eachother a great deal. The main thing is that would make the NX more appealing to consumers (not just nintendo fans) and it would give gamers plenty to play right off the bat. Not everyone likes Mario's Adventure 15: Wario's rampage and Zelda: The Link that never gets old. Variety is the spice of life.

In regards to third parties, who says that any ports to NX have to be late? Can't nintendo woo some 3rd parties to porting a a few games to the NX, when those devs were gonna release the game in nov '17 anyway. At the very least, nintendo can pay for ports that release right along with the PS4 and Xbox one.

What helps hardware sales is people being interested in the console and games are the only things that will get people interested. 

 

Ya variety is great, still 10-18 Nintendo games would be overkill and would hurt individual sales, regardless of when it releases 2-4 Nintendo exclusives in the launch window is what we will get and that's a sufficient amount. Nintendo is constantly criticized for droughts, blowing their load at launch would just cause a large post-launch drought.

As for 3rd parties, go back and read ur previous post, "Ok let's say that NX releases in this year in november and it launches with (for example) 10 games and 8 more games were released throughout the rest of 2016 and up to November of 2017. Why not wait to launch til November of 2017 to have a stronger launch lineup with those 18 games?"

Ur saying holiday 2017 will have more games because they can release games finished from Q4 2016-Q3 2017 all in Q4 2017, hence why I said it would just be padding the launch window with late ports.

 

Ya variety is great, still 10-18 Nintendo games would be overkill and would hurt individual sales, regardless of when it releases 2-4 Nintendo exclusives in the launch window is what we will get and that's a sufficient amount. Nintendo is constantly criticized for droughts, blowing their load at launch would just cause a large post-launch drought.

2 to 4 is not enough. 8 or more would be better. If the games are good, they'll sell well for over time but at launch, software sales is not a priority but getting people to buy a console is. Need appealing games to do that.

s for 3rd parties, go back and read ur previous post, "Ok let's say that NX releases in this year in november and it launches with (for example) 10 games and 8 more games were released throughout the rest of 2016 and up to November of 2017. Why not wait to launch til November of 2017 to have a stronger launch lineup with those 18 games?"

 Ur saying holiday 2017 will have more games because they can release games finished from Q4 2016-Q3 2017 all in Q4 2017, hence why I said it would just be padding the launch window with late ports.

 

You know I was talking about 1st party games with that, right? 



Aeolus451 said:

 

2 to 4 is not enough. 8 or more would be better. If the games are good, they'll sell well for over time but at launch, software sales is not a priority but getting people to buy a console is. Need appealing games to do that.

You know I was talking about 1st party games with that, right? 

 

I specifically asked if u were talking about 1st party or 3rd party and u never gave an answer.

When in the last 30 years has a console released with 8, 1st party games? There hasn't been one because it is unwise to release that many 1st party games at once. It makes infinitely more sense to elease 2 on launch day in November with 1-2 more in December then spread out about a dozen or so throughout the following year.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Aeolus451 said:

 

2 to 4 is not enough. 8 or more would be better. If the games are good, they'll sell well for over time but at launch, software sales is not a priority but getting people to buy a console is. Need appealing games to do that.

You know I was talking about 1st party games with that, right? 

 

I specifically asked if u were talking about 1st party or 3rd party and u never gave an answer.

When in the last 30 years has a console released with 8, 1st party games? There hasn't been one because it is unwise to release that many 1st party games at once. It makes infinitely more sense to elease 2 on launch day in November with 1-2 more in December then spread out about a dozen or so throughout the following year.

 


Without 3rd party support, just four 1st party games is horrible in a launch year or any year. If nintendo does that with NX.... As I mentioned earlier, NX needs to get consumers' interest. 



Wouldn't care all that much. I'd just be... disappointed I guess.



Aeolus451 said:
zorg1000 said:

 

I specifically asked if u were talking about 1st party or 3rd party and u never gave an answer.

When in the last 30 years has a console released with 8, 1st party games? There hasn't been one because it is unwise to release that many 1st party games at once. It makes infinitely more sense to elease 2 on launch day in November with 1-2 more in December then spread out about a dozen or so throughout the following year.

 


Without 3rd party support, just four 1st party games is horrible in a launch year or any year. If nintendo does that with NX.... As I mentioned earlier, NX needs to get consumers' interest. 

So why are you now flip flopping and saying they won't have any 3rd party games? And we're not talking about launch year (first 12 months), we're talking about launch window (first 1-2 months) in which case four, 1st party titles is more than enough.





When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.