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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
I really hope it goes back to Nintendo and Sony being mainstream again. Not that I can blame people this gen. The WiiU just did not have enough. I bought it 6 months after release, played through the backlog, got smash when it came out, and then was bored to death with Mario Party 10 sucking and couldn't wait it out till Zelda U so I sold it.

 


So Mario Party 10 was ur last game? U chose to end it on that note when Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World & Xenoblade Chronicles X were all set to releases later in the year? Seems like a bad judgment call.



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Cloudman said:
Roderic_Blackwood said:
Cloudman said:
I don't quite feel Ninten is mainstream these days, and somewhat doubt that can become mainstream, at least not right away. The PS and XB brands are so strong now those are the mainstream consoles now. I figure the standard comment it to "play some Playstation (or Xbox)" while Nintendo is probably that 3rd console that general audiences probably don't care much about except Nintendo fans and more core people.

It could happen with NX, but they'll really have to win people over with it, and with how strong the PS4 is going, that is going to achieve.

 

If Nintendo is not as mainstream as Playstation or Xbox then why the 3DS is the best seller system (home or handheld) of this generation? I live in a little town in Mexico and my friends, nephews and myself have both the Wii U and 3DS, I think my neighbourgh has a PS4 but I'm not exactly sure. My point is: Nintendo is still mainstream, the thing is PS and Xbox are mainstream as well and now the three brands are recognizable and in the past just Nintendo was (nobody here knew 3DO or Neo Geo and they barely knew Sega, everything was "a Nintendo") but nowadays because of internet or globalization or whatever other brands are recognizable as well.

That is true. I didn't included handhelds in my comment since I didn't think they would fit in here. I didn't even consider splitting the market into regions. If we look at just Japan, Nintendo is still very much mainstream. Everyone there knows about the Nintendo as well as owning a 3DS. The Wii U however... they people know about it, but not so much... Althought, it is probably more mainstream than Sony.

As for other regions, like in EU, it is probably that Ninten is not so mainstream since the PS brand is the primary console, but I am not from EU, so I can't comment on that. And as for the US, it is likely PS and Xbox, with Ninten being on the decline, but not niche... Nintendo can't be niche because they're just too recognizable to be niche. It's hard to answer now. They are mainstream, but... just not the Wii U is mainstream.



Everyone in the UK knows who/what Nintendo are even if they have no interest or havn't purchased a Wii U, The big problem I feel is that the Wii/U gen they have heavily missed out on the 18-24 demographic as the shooter genre became the most mainstream genre and one of the biggest "reasons" to own a console.

I feel here Nintendo's fans are either in they late 20's and older or teens and younger. It also seems like the Wii/U have ended up getting a reputation as viewd as a console for kids and marketing from what I gather is on kids chanels and family tv shows. I've seen many adverts for Xbox during big sport games along with quite a few PS4 but never once seen a Nintendo advert.

If they can put a good strong platform together I see no reason why fans of old and new would come flocking to it. Most of my friends I grew up with on the SNES, N64 and GC all just want a standard console with no motion controls or non-standard controllers and would get back onto Nintendo but until then they will not even consider buying one and I suspect there are many "waiting" for this to happen as well worldwide.





I don't think they can be mainstream with the criteria you set. Nintendo will very likely see big success in mobile, and that is technically as mainstream as it goes as far as gaming markets go, but when it comes to their core gaming segment, ie. their dedicated hardware, and software for that hardware, while they might see more success in the next generation than they did in this generation, I honestly don't really think they'll have a massive turnaround from the current situation. They'll likely be somewhat up, but not massively.



WoodenPints said:
Cloudman said:

That is true. I didn't included handhelds in my comment since I didn't think they would fit in here. I didn't even consider splitting the market into regions. If we look at just Japan, Nintendo is still very much mainstream. Everyone there knows about the Nintendo as well as owning a 3DS. The Wii U however... they people know about it, but not so much... Althought, it is probably more mainstream than Sony.

As for other regions, like in EU, it is probably that Ninten is not so mainstream since the PS brand is the primary console, but I am not from EU, so I can't comment on that. And as for the US, it is likely PS and Xbox, with Ninten being on the decline, but not niche... Nintendo can't be niche because they're just too recognizable to be niche. It's hard to answer now. They are mainstream, but... just not the Wii U is mainstream.



Everyone in the UK knows who/what Nintendo are even if they have no interest or havn't purchased a Wii U, The big problem I feel is that the Wii/U gen they have heavily missed out on the 18-24 demographic as the shooter genre became the most mainstream genre and one of the biggest "reasons" to own a console.

I feel here Nintendo's fans are either in they late 20's and older or teens and younger. It also seems like the Wii/U have ended up getting a reputation as viewd as a console for kids and marketing from what I gather is on kids chanels and family tv shows. I've seen many adverts for Xbox during big sport games along with quite a few PS4 but never once seen a Nintendo advert.

If they can put a good strong platform together I see no reason why fans of old and new would come flocking to it. Most of my friends I grew up with on the SNES, N64 and GC all just want a standard console with no motion controls or non-standard controllers and would get back onto Nintendo but until then they will not even consider buying one and I suspect there are many "waiting" for this to happen as well worldwide.



Thanks for that info. I was hoping I could a POV from someone from the UK : D It's good to know that Ninten is still wel known and may have a chance to come back.





 

              

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In its current state, i doubt it. Its also less likely due to the constant statements from Nintendo saying that the NX's new interesting and unique concept etc. So I don't think so.



 

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t3mporary_126 said:
oniyide said:

 

because the HW is where they are suffering and when the OP is talking about being mainstream again, we talking HW. 

*Rereads OP* 

Huh you're right.

Well I guess I would counter OP's defintion of mainstream being limited to the hardware performance in sale if the software still sells really well and has potential to sell more in the future. 



 

his defintion in more in line with the truth than just software, how can they sell more in the future if no one is buying the HW? They cant. And the HW that is doing good is the portables and lets be honest that whole sector is getting less and less relevant every year as tablets and phones get more popular (outside of Japan anyway) what Ninty is is a really popular niche which is fine.



Nintendo's board of directors are just too old and out of touch too ... they've actually become more regressive as a company from the 90s. In the 90s they were more in touch with the Western market thanks to a strong NOA with Minoru Arakawa and Howard Lincoln.

Today, they don't even have that.

The market has changed too much and they haven't changed with it, they've actually kinda gone into a bubble back into the 1980s.

They still make great games though. The company's management has let it down though and I think even that would've been OK, but this smartphone/tablet rise especially with kids has really stabbed Nintendo in the heart, without the security of a large portable market, their whole business model from the last 20 years kinda falls apart.



I don't think they can be mainstream again, they can do things way better than they did this gen tho



                                                                                     

I think Nintendo is still mainstream. I mean, people are still creating merchandise based on their characters. There was a couple who did a dance based around Super Mario Bros.' iconic themes in Dancing with the Stars. YouTube content creators have done Nintendo content videos that not only relate to games, but also theories, food, clothing, etc. Pokemon Go was trending when it was announced. Amiibo is selling like crazy. And the software are still selling rather well. So unless we're talking about hardware (or home console to be more exact), Nintendo is not really niche or anything like that. Plus, consider what they can be once they fulfill all their plans of raising awareness through mobile, theme parks, animation/films, etc.



zorg1000 said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
I really hope it goes back to Nintendo and Sony being mainstream again. Not that I can blame people this gen. The WiiU just did not have enough. I bought it 6 months after release, played through the backlog, got smash when it came out, and then was bored to death with Mario Party 10 sucking and couldn't wait it out till Zelda U so I sold it.

 


So Mario Party 10 was ur last game? U chose to end it on that note when Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World & Xenoblade Chronicles X were all set to releases later in the year? Seems like a bad judgment call.

Not into Splatoon, SMM is a less enticing LBP pigeonholed through Mario themes, Yoshi's looked interesting but not enough to hold on, and I'm not into JRPGs





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