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Which one gotta go?

Kingdom Hearts 74 46.84%
 
Fire Emblem 53 33.54%
 
Persona 31 19.62%
 
Total:158
JRPGfan on 19 January 2016

Kingdom Hearts or Fire Emblem.......

cant I keep both? and still have persona ; _ ;
None of them have to go, theyre all great series.



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Azuren on 19 January 2016
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Actual game titles!
Kingdom Hearts 1
Kingdom Hearts 1.5
Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5 (is this like.... Kingdom Hearts 4? fuck)
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdom Hearts 2.5
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD
Kingdom Hearts 0.2
Kingdom Hearts 3
Kingdom Hearts 3 D
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts X

That isn't even including named titles of Chain of Memories, Coded, Birth By Sleep.

A game series where you need to go and look up which actual games come in what order like Kingdom Hearts gets struck off the list for me, the 2.8 was the last straw I think in terms of "name of a video game so stupid sounding I can't request it vocally in a store"

Was a great idea for a title originally tho, when it was going back to old school movies as a nostalgia fest, later games in the series tho... far less nostalgia'y for me tho, only feeling nostalgia for the earlier games in the series when playing them.

Pretty sure 1.5+2.5 isn't a thing or I would have shit myself with joy (it would essentially be the first six games on PS4)

 

The titles that matter in release order are

 

Kingdom Hearts 

Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (The game has a heavy, HEAVY theme on memories and how they connect the player to other characters, so this makes perfect naming sense)

Kingdom Hearts II

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (First Title that actually doesn't make sense)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Doesn't make sense, but it sounds cool so there)

Kingdom Hearts: coded (Originally on mobile devices, coded's title actually makes the most sense since it takes place in a digital world)

Kingdom Hearts: 3D (or Dream Drop Distance, it's interchangeable, the title was originally made to reflect is status as a 3DS game)

 

Kingdom Hearts X is what I would consider an actual spinoff, as it is entirely unnecessary to the lore and only introduces minor elements into the main story. This is in dire contrast to a game like, say Chain of Memories, which sets the entire stage for KHII and explains why Sora is trapped in suspended animation for the prologue of the game. 

 

Remakes/Remaster that just have odd names:

 

Kingdom Hearts re:Chain of Memories (a remake, hence the "re:" in the title, made because the original on GBA was awkward)

Kingdom Hearts re:coded (another remake, since the cell phone version didn't leave Japan)

Kingdom Hearts: 1.5 HD reMix (a remaster collection with KH, CoM, and HD cutscenes from Days (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.5 HD reMix (another remaster collection with Birth By Sleep, KH2, and HD cutscenes from re:coded (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.8 HD reMix (a remaster of 3D that includes...)

Kingdom Hearts: 0.2 (... A collection of extra scenes included with 2.8, this all new content does not feature any gameplay and isn't a game, not it's it even a standalone title that can be purchased by itself.)

 

It should be noted that every remake or remaster includes an indicator of such in the title (reMix, re: ), and all box art and descriptions clearly show that they are compilations or remakes (except re:coded's Western release, since the game never came to the West).

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83135/20150909/kingdom-hearts-2-9-for-ps3-and-ps4-in-the-pipeline-rumor.htm just rumours about it, recall it being talked about a while back, not sure if anything else has come up about it or if it has become Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue I mean if they all just had Remix after them at least you would have an idea that the games were remasters, but while you type (and I did) that game to have a somewhat legible title with 2.8, the actual one there is copied from wiki of II.8 final chapter prologue, so yeah, not confusing at all? Unless Final Chapter Prologue means remix?

Okay, yeah, I forgot that the 3D remaster had a more ridiculous naming scheme. I think they have it a different name because despite having no new gameplay, it does have new content. 

 

But that rumor was just a rumor. The only PS4 KH game coming down the pipeline is the Final Chapter Prologue (named as such because it's both the final chapter before KH3 as well as the prologue).

 





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Ganoncrotch on 19 January 2016
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Actual game titles!
Kingdom Hearts 1
Kingdom Hearts 1.5
Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5 (is this like.... Kingdom Hearts 4? fuck)
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdom Hearts 2.5
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD
Kingdom Hearts 0.2
Kingdom Hearts 3
Kingdom Hearts 3 D
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts X

That isn't even including named titles of Chain of Memories, Coded, Birth By Sleep.

A game series where you need to go and look up which actual games come in what order like Kingdom Hearts gets struck off the list for me, the 2.8 was the last straw I think in terms of "name of a video game so stupid sounding I can't request it vocally in a store"

Was a great idea for a title originally tho, when it was going back to old school movies as a nostalgia fest, later games in the series tho... far less nostalgia'y for me tho, only feeling nostalgia for the earlier games in the series when playing them.

Pretty sure 1.5+2.5 isn't a thing or I would have shit myself with joy (it would essentially be the first six games on PS4)

 

The titles that matter in release order are

 

Kingdom Hearts 

Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (The game has a heavy, HEAVY theme on memories and how they connect the player to other characters, so this makes perfect naming sense)

Kingdom Hearts II

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (First Title that actually doesn't make sense)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Doesn't make sense, but it sounds cool so there)

Kingdom Hearts: coded (Originally on mobile devices, coded's title actually makes the most sense since it takes place in a digital world)

Kingdom Hearts: 3D (or Dream Drop Distance, it's interchangeable, the title was originally made to reflect is status as a 3DS game)

 

Kingdom Hearts X is what I would consider an actual spinoff, as it is entirely unnecessary to the lore and only introduces minor elements into the main story. This is in dire contrast to a game like, say Chain of Memories, which sets the entire stage for KHII and explains why Sora is trapped in suspended animation for the prologue of the game. 

 

Remakes/Remaster that just have odd names:

 

Kingdom Hearts re:Chain of Memories (a remake, hence the "re:" in the title, made because the original on GBA was awkward)

Kingdom Hearts re:coded (another remake, since the cell phone version didn't leave Japan)

Kingdom Hearts: 1.5 HD reMix (a remaster collection with KH, CoM, and HD cutscenes from Days (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.5 HD reMix (another remaster collection with Birth By Sleep, KH2, and HD cutscenes from re:coded (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.8 HD reMix (a remaster of 3D that includes...)

Kingdom Hearts: 0.2 (... A collection of extra scenes included with 2.8, this all new content does not feature any gameplay and isn't a game, not it's it even a standalone title that can be purchased by itself.)

 

It should be noted that every remake or remaster includes an indicator of such in the title (reMix, re: ), and all box art and descriptions clearly show that they are compilations or remakes (except re:coded's Western release, since the game never came to the West).

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83135/20150909/kingdom-hearts-2-9-for-ps3-and-ps4-in-the-pipeline-rumor.htm just rumours about it, recall it being talked about a while back, not sure if anything else has come up about it or if it has become Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue I mean if they all just had Remix after them at least you would have an idea that the games were remasters, but while you type (and I did) that game to have a somewhat legible title with 2.8, the actual one there is copied from wiki of II.8 final chapter prologue, so yeah, not confusing at all? Unless Final Chapter Prologue means remix?

Okay, yeah, I forgot that the 3D remaster had a more ridiculous naming scheme. I think they have it a different name because despite having no new gameplay, it does have new content. 

 

But that rumor was just a rumor. The only PS4 KH game coming down the pipeline is the Final Chapter Prologue (named as such because it's both the final chapter before KH3 as well as the prologue).

 

 

But is it saying that II.8 was the Final Chapter AND Prologue to Kingdom Hearts 3, or that it is the Prologue to the Final Chapter which is KH3, stating that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be the final chapter.

 

.....

 

Wait it has to be the second meaning because if it was the first then it has to also be the Final Chapter to Kingdom Hearts.... unless 3 is a prequel.... wait.... no.

 

 

IT HAS TO GO!!!!



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Azuren on 19 January 2016
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Actual game titles!
Kingdom Hearts 1
Kingdom Hearts 1.5
Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5 (is this like.... Kingdom Hearts 4? fuck)
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdom Hearts 2.5
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD
Kingdom Hearts 0.2
Kingdom Hearts 3
Kingdom Hearts 3 D
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts X

That isn't even including named titles of Chain of Memories, Coded, Birth By Sleep.

A game series where you need to go and look up which actual games come in what order like Kingdom Hearts gets struck off the list for me, the 2.8 was the last straw I think in terms of "name of a video game so stupid sounding I can't request it vocally in a store"

Was a great idea for a title originally tho, when it was going back to old school movies as a nostalgia fest, later games in the series tho... far less nostalgia'y for me tho, only feeling nostalgia for the earlier games in the series when playing them.

Pretty sure 1.5+2.5 isn't a thing or I would have shit myself with joy (it would essentially be the first six games on PS4)

 

The titles that matter in release order are

 

Kingdom Hearts 

Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (The game has a heavy, HEAVY theme on memories and how they connect the player to other characters, so this makes perfect naming sense)

Kingdom Hearts II

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (First Title that actually doesn't make sense)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Doesn't make sense, but it sounds cool so there)

Kingdom Hearts: coded (Originally on mobile devices, coded's title actually makes the most sense since it takes place in a digital world)

Kingdom Hearts: 3D (or Dream Drop Distance, it's interchangeable, the title was originally made to reflect is status as a 3DS game)

 

Kingdom Hearts X is what I would consider an actual spinoff, as it is entirely unnecessary to the lore and only introduces minor elements into the main story. This is in dire contrast to a game like, say Chain of Memories, which sets the entire stage for KHII and explains why Sora is trapped in suspended animation for the prologue of the game. 

 

Remakes/Remaster that just have odd names:

 

Kingdom Hearts re:Chain of Memories (a remake, hence the "re:" in the title, made because the original on GBA was awkward)

Kingdom Hearts re:coded (another remake, since the cell phone version didn't leave Japan)

Kingdom Hearts: 1.5 HD reMix (a remaster collection with KH, CoM, and HD cutscenes from Days (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.5 HD reMix (another remaster collection with Birth By Sleep, KH2, and HD cutscenes from re:coded (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.8 HD reMix (a remaster of 3D that includes...)

Kingdom Hearts: 0.2 (... A collection of extra scenes included with 2.8, this all new content does not feature any gameplay and isn't a game, not it's it even a standalone title that can be purchased by itself.)

 

It should be noted that every remake or remaster includes an indicator of such in the title (reMix, re: ), and all box art and descriptions clearly show that they are compilations or remakes (except re:coded's Western release, since the game never came to the West).

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83135/20150909/kingdom-hearts-2-9-for-ps3-and-ps4-in-the-pipeline-rumor.htm just rumours about it, recall it being talked about a while back, not sure if anything else has come up about it or if it has become Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue I mean if they all just had Remix after them at least you would have an idea that the games were remasters, but while you type (and I did) that game to have a somewhat legible title with 2.8, the actual one there is copied from wiki of II.8 final chapter prologue, so yeah, not confusing at all? Unless Final Chapter Prologue means remix?

Okay, yeah, I forgot that the 3D remaster had a more ridiculous naming scheme. I think they have it a different name because despite having no new gameplay, it does have new content. 

 

But that rumor was just a rumor. The only PS4 KH game coming down the pipeline is the Final Chapter Prologue (named as such because it's both the final chapter before KH3 as well as the prologue).

 

 

But is it saying that II.8 was the Final Chapter AND Prologue to Kingdom Hearts 3, or that it is the Prologue to the Final Chapter which is KH3, stating that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be the final chapter.

 

.....

 

Wait it has to be the second meaning because if it was the first then it has to also be the Final Chapter to Kingdom Hearts.... unless 3 is a prequel.... wait.... no.

 

 

IT HAS TO GO!!!!

Every title has a dozen meanings. It's the final chapter before 3 and the prologue to it, as well as being the prologue to the final chapter of what Nomura refers to as the "Xehanort Saga". But if you're going to judge a game by its title alone, then I don't even know what to say.





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DakonBlackblade on 19 January 2016

I prefer KH and Persona over FE.



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Ganoncrotch on 19 January 2016
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:
Actual game titles!
Kingdom Hearts 1
Kingdom Hearts 1.5
Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5 (is this like.... Kingdom Hearts 4? fuck)
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdom Hearts 2.5
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD
Kingdom Hearts 0.2
Kingdom Hearts 3
Kingdom Hearts 3 D
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts X

That isn't even including named titles of Chain of Memories, Coded, Birth By Sleep.

A game series where you need to go and look up which actual games come in what order like Kingdom Hearts gets struck off the list for me, the 2.8 was the last straw I think in terms of "name of a video game so stupid sounding I can't request it vocally in a store"

Was a great idea for a title originally tho, when it was going back to old school movies as a nostalgia fest, later games in the series tho... far less nostalgia'y for me tho, only feeling nostalgia for the earlier games in the series when playing them.

Pretty sure 1.5+2.5 isn't a thing or I would have shit myself with joy (it would essentially be the first six games on PS4)

 

The titles that matter in release order are

 

Kingdom Hearts 

Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (The game has a heavy, HEAVY theme on memories and how they connect the player to other characters, so this makes perfect naming sense)

Kingdom Hearts II

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (First Title that actually doesn't make sense)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Doesn't make sense, but it sounds cool so there)

Kingdom Hearts: coded (Originally on mobile devices, coded's title actually makes the most sense since it takes place in a digital world)

Kingdom Hearts: 3D (or Dream Drop Distance, it's interchangeable, the title was originally made to reflect is status as a 3DS game)

 

Kingdom Hearts X is what I would consider an actual spinoff, as it is entirely unnecessary to the lore and only introduces minor elements into the main story. This is in dire contrast to a game like, say Chain of Memories, which sets the entire stage for KHII and explains why Sora is trapped in suspended animation for the prologue of the game. 

 

Remakes/Remaster that just have odd names:

 

Kingdom Hearts re:Chain of Memories (a remake, hence the "re:" in the title, made because the original on GBA was awkward)

Kingdom Hearts re:coded (another remake, since the cell phone version didn't leave Japan)

Kingdom Hearts: 1.5 HD reMix (a remaster collection with KH, CoM, and HD cutscenes from Days (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.5 HD reMix (another remaster collection with Birth By Sleep, KH2, and HD cutscenes from re:coded (no gameplay, just cutscenes))

Kingdom Hearts: 2.8 HD reMix (a remaster of 3D that includes...)

Kingdom Hearts: 0.2 (... A collection of extra scenes included with 2.8, this all new content does not feature any gameplay and isn't a game, not it's it even a standalone title that can be purchased by itself.)

 

It should be noted that every remake or remaster includes an indicator of such in the title (reMix, re: ), and all box art and descriptions clearly show that they are compilations or remakes (except re:coded's Western release, since the game never came to the West).

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83135/20150909/kingdom-hearts-2-9-for-ps3-and-ps4-in-the-pipeline-rumor.htm just rumours about it, recall it being talked about a while back, not sure if anything else has come up about it or if it has become Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue I mean if they all just had Remix after them at least you would have an idea that the games were remasters, but while you type (and I did) that game to have a somewhat legible title with 2.8, the actual one there is copied from wiki of II.8 final chapter prologue, so yeah, not confusing at all? Unless Final Chapter Prologue means remix?

Okay, yeah, I forgot that the 3D remaster had a more ridiculous naming scheme. I think they have it a different name because despite having no new gameplay, it does have new content. 

 

But that rumor was just a rumor. The only PS4 KH game coming down the pipeline is the Final Chapter Prologue (named as such because it's both the final chapter before KH3 as well as the prologue).

 

 

But is it saying that II.8 was the Final Chapter AND Prologue to Kingdom Hearts 3, or that it is the Prologue to the Final Chapter which is KH3, stating that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be the final chapter.

 

.....

 

Wait it has to be the second meaning because if it was the first then it has to also be the Final Chapter to Kingdom Hearts.... unless 3 is a prequel.... wait.... no.

 

 

IT HAS TO GO!!!!

Every title has a dozen meanings. It's the final chapter before 3 and the prologue to it, as well as being the prologue to the final chapter of what Nomura refers to as the "Xehanort Saga". But if you're going to judge a game by its title alone, then I don't even know what to say.

I'm afraid when it comes to having a backlog as far as the NES in places getting to play games in their complete series after they're all out, a name/numbering scheme which is all over the place is definitely a shit factor for me in gaming.





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Azuren on 19 January 2016
ganoncrotch said:
Azuren said:

Every title has a dozen meanings. It's the final chapter before 3 and the prologue to it, as well as being the prologue to the final chapter of what Nomura refers to as the "Xehanort Saga". But if you're going to judge a game by its title alone, then I don't even know what to say.

I'm afraid when it comes to having a backlog as far as the NES in places getting to play games in their complete series after they're all out, a name/numbering scheme which is all over the place is definitely a shit factor for me in gaming.

Except you know it's not, you're just rummaging for excuses. 





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Ganoncrotch on 19 January 2016
Azuren said:
ganoncrotch said:

I'm afraid when it comes to having a backlog as far as the NES in places getting to play games in their complete series after they're all out, a name/numbering scheme which is all over the place is definitely a shit factor for me in gaming.

Except you know it's not, you're just rummaging for excuses. 

Excuses? what are you on about lol, it's a choice of 3 series I've made mine, no need to lose sleep over it.

I'm out with this tho, I like the thread ideas and will return for the next "ones gotta go" if the OP does another one, but getting into nitty gritty pointless stuff to the point where it gets stupid or personal isn't what I come here for, so I've no interest in wasting more keystrokes to it so yeee, I dunno, had a google of it to see if there was others with issues, seems to be a discussion went on in Dec on neogaf about it in case you think I'm the only person in the world who's ever had issues with KHs numbers, they also list a ton of games (and non games, possibly some of the books from the series, not sure) which have even wackier titles.

No offence to ya here Azuren, like I said tho, when it comes to someone suggesting I need to find excuses/reasons to explain my feelings on something, nope, no obligation to spend time doing that.



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hershel_layton on 19 January 2016
BasilZero said:
hershel_layton said:
Azuren said:
I'm saddened to see that most would do without Kingdom Hearts. Personally, I don't find Persona or Fire Emblem to be in even the same category, since Kingdom Hearts is an more ARPG than it is JRPG

I truly like Kingdom hearts. It's just that we haven't gotten that many games. I think there's only 3/4 Kingdom hearts games.

 

All 3 of them are great. No doubt about that

 

Joke post? o.o

 

Excluding HD remakes and ports

There's a total of 8 KH games excluding KH3 of course.

Kingdom Hearts I
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
Kingdom Hearts Coded
Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance

Well I'll be. I have no idea on how I overlooked so many games





 

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Azuren on 19 January 2016
hershel_layton said:
BasilZero said:
hershel_layton said:
Azuren said:
I'm saddened to see that most would do without Kingdom Hearts. Personally, I don't find Persona or Fire Emblem to be in even the same category, since Kingdom Hearts is an more ARPG than it is JRPG

I truly like Kingdom hearts. It's just that we haven't gotten that many games. I think there's only 3/4 Kingdom hearts games.

 

All 3 of them are great. No doubt about that

 

Joke post? o.o

 

Excluding HD remakes and ports

There's a total of 8 KH games excluding KH3 of course.

Kingdom Hearts I
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
Kingdom Hearts Coded
Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance

Well I'll be. I have no idea on how I overlooked so many games

I'd like to also point out that is seven games, not eight.





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