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Puppyroach said:

I don't mean to be picky, but if its sold primarily to people who already own a PS4, isn't it by definition a peripheral?



No... just as Blu-ray players are sold primarily to people with TVs but they're not considered a peripheral. MOVE adds to the PS4 experience, PSCamera adds to the PS4 experience but PSVR is a completely separate experience that requires a PS4 to run it. It's not a peripheral (as Sony have said) it's hardware in its own right (as Sony have said).





 

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zero129 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Why do people think Sony expect to sell millions? If they sell 500k year 1 at $400 then that's fantastic. If they see 1m units, there will still be people calling it a flop to suit their agenda.
All new tech will be expensive, it's been like that forever. VCR players, TVs, radios, cars, look at anything and it was expensive at one point. It's actually a testament to Sony if they can get this thing out under $500.

Cos imo unless Sonys target  is 1mil units, it will be a flop if thats all it sells after 1 year imo. 3rd party devs dont like low selling hardware. Kinect sold millions yet truth how many games use it??.

You could be right but we don't really know Sony's expectations until we know the price. If it's $500+ then Sony know it's not going to sell 1M. $300 then they are aiming for 1M+.

And it's not kinetic, kinetic was a fad that didn't live up to its expectations. Vr is something bigger that's why numerous companies are investing in it.

Plus we probably won't see many high budget 3rd party for vr but we will see many games that support vr. Also if the 3rd parties do make a dedicated vr game, they have more than one platform to release it on.





zero129 said:

I agree with everything you say. Other users things we are just posting this to put a downspin on this price just cos its Sony when thats not the case id be saying the same thing about any add on thats launching at such a price. its even more funny when people compare PSVR to TV's or cell phones. Like you say they where needed devices that someone pretty much has to have. PSVR or any VR unit is not a needed device its a device to add an experience to an already experiance you can get. If you dont have a TV you cant watch anything unless you go to a friends house lol. If you dont have a phone you cant ring or text people well on the go. If you dont have a VR unit you can still play games without it.. This is nothing got to do with Sony and other users shouldnt try to shoot down our points by making it look like it is. We are not the ones looking at this the wrong way, People that are comparing VR devices to TV's and Phones are looking at it the wrong way and getting got up in marketing hype imo.

 

That was a post full of ignorance. I'm sorry but that's just confirmed to me why you are here.



SWORDF1SH said:

You could be right but we don't really know Sony's expectations until we know the price. If it's $500+ then Sony know it's not going to sell 1M. $300 then they are aiming for 1M+.

And it's not kinetic, kinetic was a fad that didn't live up to its expectations. Vr is something bigger that's why numerous companies are investing in it.

Plus we probably won't see many high budget 3rd party for vr but we will see many games that support vr. Also if the 3rd parties do make a dedicated vr game, they have more than one platform to release it on.



Sony's target is 1.5m:

http://www.psu.com/News/28927/PlayStation-VR-to-sell-15-million-by-end-of-2016





 

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zero129 said:


How is it not a Peripheal?.  The only way what you say would hold true (And this is what i been saying) is if Sonys VR can be used on any Device Otherwise it is an add on for the PS4 to add to the experiance. Its not the same as with vcr or bluray players. Sony Bluray players are not locked to only Sony TV's or else then yes that would be seen as an "Add on" for that TV. But since they can be used on any TV that makes them a Device in their own right.

I know what Sony mean and you don't. Let's leave it at that.

SCE America CEO Shawn Layden suggested as much in a recent interview with Forbes. “VR for us, it’s not a peripheral,” Layden said. “It’s not a, ‘here’s the latest way to interact with the game’ thing. It’s a platform. It has the ability to impact gaming the same way that smart phones [changed] cell phones… before it was ‘I can talk to a person, I can text a person, what more do I need?’ But then the smart phone came out and it’s like, wow, I can do all that in my hand? I think Morpheus is going to have a similar impact on gaming or entertainment consumption.”





 

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zero129 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
eva01beserk said:

 

Your are right, all thouse first where expensive, but for a reason, they where needed. They where all a stand alone product like a celllphone and stuff ike that. This is not a stand alone product, this requires a $350 machine for it to work and to boot, its only a peripheral that adds very little to the alreaady functionallity of the device, this is worse for the rift, that while costing more also requires a much more expensive machine to work of.

This wont be for hardcore gamers like some say, cuz hardcore gamers will play a game no matter what and paying so much more, just for a diferent point of view will not influence manny. This is in my opinion, to atract a diferent demographic. The ones that get impreses with new tech, no matter how useles it is. like the apple fans.  Peple who buy the "it" device just because. Then hook them into gaming. Use them to lay the foundation while developing the real killer apps and reduce the price to atttract the hardcore and casuals.

VCR player is a standalone device? From my extremely short list from thousands of possible devices, 1 isn't a standalone device. And how were any of them needed? Maybe some are now a staple of everyday life, but were they when they released.




Yes the VCR player is a stand alone device. You can use it on any TV and it was needed if you wanted to be able to watch your movies anytime you wanted.

Clearly TV was needed or how else would you watch your games? movies?, whatever else..

Phones where needed to keep in contact with people and making doing so faster and easier then sending a letter.

VR is something in its current forum thats great and good and i love the experience but its still something thats not needed Since users can still play their games without one. You couldnt watch your movies without a TV, You couldnt play your Movies anytime you wanted without a VCR, and you couldnt talk to a person miles away in real time without a phone.

 

*face palm* 

I can't do this anymore, this is torture. The spin is making me dizzy.

Last reply.

Over and out.



GribbleGrunger said:
SWORDF1SH said:

You could be right but we don't really know Sony's expectations until we know the price. If it's $500+ then Sony know it's not going to sell 1M. $300 then they are aiming for 1M+.

And it's not kinetic, kinetic was a fad that didn't live up to its expectations. Vr is something bigger that's why numerous companies are investing in it.

Plus we probably won't see many high budget 3rd party for vr but we will see many games that support vr. Also if the 3rd parties do make a dedicated vr game, they have more than one platform to release it on.



Sony's target is 1.5m:

http://www.psu.com/News/28927/PlayStation-VR-to-sell-15-million-by-end-of-2016



 

That's not Sony's expectations gg. This company doesn't even know Sony's launch price.



SWORDF1SH said:

 

That's not Sony's expectations gg. This company doesn't even know Sony's launch price.

I didn't spot that, thanks. I saw other articles suggesting this was Sony's target but couldn't find them.





 

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zero129 said:


Why do you keep trying to shoot down our points by saying its "Spin" or "Only saying it cos its Sony"??. What your doing is the definition of spin.

Id love for you guys to please explain to me how PSVR is the same thing as TV's and VCR players and phones since ye are the ones who started with the comparasons.

This isn't something to enhance your PS4 experience, this is something that requires the PS4 to run. It's not a peripheral as Sony have said many times. Let's say you hooked up a car battery to give you light. Would that make light a car peripheral? You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with Sony, the people who are making and selling this.





 

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zero129 said:


Would this car battery only work with the same model light??. If so then yes that battery would be an add on for the light since i cant use it with any other light. Like i said if Sony is really seeing this as a device in its own right they wont lock it down to just the PS4. Every comparison you have giving me of another thing so far all have one thing in common that you should be able to see. None of them are locked down..

Sony have said it's not a peripheral, I can fully comprehend what they're talking about but you can't. I'm done here.





 

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