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OneKartVita on 13 January 2016
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:
How is buying exclusivity a bad practice? It makes business sense. And truly, it's not worth caring about.

I cant agree with this. Whatever about a timed exclusive (Even if i think that sucks too), but buying full on exclusivity to a game that was multiplat is not good for the consumer and is bad practice imo. You want exclusive go and make your own and build up your own ips is how it should be done imo.

 

It is still multiplatform though. Sony were kind enough to leave it on PC.  It's standard business really for companies to want exclusives.  Just look at Microsoft and gears of war.  They ended up buying the ip outright in the end.  If they don't get exclusives they won't stand out from the competition. 



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SamLeheny on 13 January 2016
Aeolus451 said:
Jazz2K said:

I think he means that people aren't concerned about bad practices when it doesn't "affect" them.

 

 


That's just human nature and not exclusive to internet forums or the internet. 

Totally. Nobody is obliged to give a shit about something if it's not their problem. I wouldn't ask them to. The problem arises when people go around demanding that others not care either.

We each get to choose for outselves what we care about, and how much we care about it. A simple "I'm not bother by it" or "I don't think it's an issue and here's why..." is just fine. But increasingly often the response comes in the form of "Stop caring about that thing! I know for a fact it's not worth caring about because I personally don't care about it! *mic drop*"





SamLeheny on 13 January 2016
OneKartVita said:
zero129 said:

I cant agree with this. Whatever about a timed exclusive (Even if i think that sucks too), but buying full on exclusivity to a game that was multiplat is not good for the consumer and is bad practice imo. You want exclusive go and make your own and build up your own ips is how it should be done imo.

 

It is still multiplatform though. Sony were kind enough to leave it on PC.  It's standard business really for companies to want exclusives.  Just look at Microsoft and gears of war.  They ended up buying the ip outright in the end.  If they don't get exclusives they won't stand out from the competition. 

That goes around in a bit of a circle though. True, without exclusive titles, there would no point in having two competing consoles that are otherwise very nearly the same machine. But if exclusive titles only exist at the whims of those companies pushing the consoles, then the PS4/Xbone divide is one kept alive only bt PS4 and Xbone themselves, and its not for the consumer's benefit.

If there was only one console format that nobody owned and anybody could manufactor consoles for, this would only be more benificial to consumers, ie. everybody has access to every game. No Sony gamers, no Microsoft gamers. Just gamers.

True that exclusives are needed to perpetuate the format divide, but that's not to say that the format divide is worth perpetuating in the first place.



Jazz2K on 13 January 2016
SamLeheny said:

That goes around in a bit of a circle though. True, without exclusive titles, there would no point in having two competing consoles that are otherwise very nearly the same machine. But if exclusive titles only exist at the whims of those companies pushing the consoles, then the PS4/Xbone divide is one kept alive only bt PS4 and Xbone themselves, and its not for the consumer's benefit.

If there was only one console format that nobody owned and anybody could manufactor consoles for, this would only be more benificial to consumers, ie. everybody has access to every game. No Sony gamers, no Microsoft gamers. Just gamers.

True that exclusives are needed to perpetuate the format divide, but that's not to say that the format divide is worth perpetuating in the first place.

100% agree at the bolded.





PerturbedKitty on 13 January 2016
SamLeheny said:
PerturbedKitty said:
the best way to support your console is to make games for it. lol. its a dying art, i know.

That's why I don't stand against console manufacturers making games of their own. Sony makes Killzone, they can publish it on whatever systems they want.

But when it comes to just buying up titles, it's another matter. Such as in the case of Tomb Raider. It was already coming to Xbox, all microsoft did was pay off Squeenix to not let anybody else have it for a while. We english majors refer to that as a "dick move".

oh, i completely agree. these console manufacturers should be putting money into their own projects to support their console rather than throwing money at a game that was already going to exist anyway only to keep it off certain consoles. there is a big difference.





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OttoniBastos on 14 January 2016

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Lawlight on 14 January 2016
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:
How is buying exclusivity a bad practice? It makes business sense. And truly, it's not worth caring about.

I cant agree with this. Whatever about a timed exclusive (Even if i think that sucks too), but buying full on exclusivity to a game that was multiplat is not good for the consumer and is bad practice imo. You want exclusive go and make your own and build up your own ips is how it should be done imo.

What's the difference between developing your own exclusive game and buying one? It makes no difference to the consumer.





AlfredoTurkey on 14 January 2016

Exclusives are good for the industry because of a few reasons. One, they're usually the highest quality and highest rated games. Two, they foster great competition and three, they give each platform an identify. What would Genesis have been had they not had more adult, edgy titles than SNES? Just another SNES... only black?

Exclusives make this industry exciting and give everyone something to discuss. Sure, there's some people out there that are just a tad bit too emotionally invested but it's a small price to pay imo.



Aeolus451 on 14 January 2016
SamLeheny said:
Aeolus451 said:

 


That's just human nature and not exclusive to internet forums or the internet. 

Totally. Nobody is obliged to give a shit about something if it's not their problem. I wouldn't ask them to. The problem arises when people go around demanding that others not care either.

We each get to choose for outselves what we care about, and how much we care about it. A simple "I'm not bother by it" or "I don't think it's an issue and here's why..." is just fine. But increasingly often the response comes in the form of "Stop caring about that thing! I know for a fact it's not worth caring about because I personally don't care about it! *mic drop*"

 

I think that you're basically nick picking this. I've seen some people not care about something and don't want others to discuss it around them but I never seen anything like "Stop caring about that thing! I know for a fact it's not worth caring about because I don't personally care it!"  but that's more or less someone assuming that everyone else thinks like them or should. 



PerturbedKitty on 14 January 2016
OttoniBastos said:
PerturbedKitty said:
the best way to support your console is to make games for it. lol. its a dying art, i know.

Tell that to WiiU and it dissapointing sales.

Making sure the games people want to play(regardless of exclusivity or genre) are coming to your console is the best way to support your console.First party games,second party games,console exclusives and marketing deals are just an extra push and the last two are usually dictated by whom has the largest install base.

Besides PS4 will get lots of exclusives and console exclusives just by having the largest install base and demographic appeal(japanese games for example).

youre right. im going to march into my living room right now and tell my wii u to sell better and make games for all the dude bros. (lol)