DonFerrari said:
Darc Requiem said:
@DonFerrari
There is no way the original PS2, (Non Slim Model), only had 5-10% failure rate. I knew one person. That didn't have their original model PS2 fail. They settle the class action suit for a reason. Before the 360, the PS2 was by far the most unreliable console. |
10% is still very high... and wearing the reading driver down isn't a failure at all... or do you consider your car to have failed by having to exchange the tire every 50k km/35k miles and changing oil every 10k km/6k mile?? There is a difference between a system failing and a wearing down.
PS1 and PS2 'failure rates' are using numbers for consoles "dying" after several years of use, and not under 1-2 years, and they aren't from mal function or similar issues they were wear down. As myself said my PS1 died after 5 years of intense use (after 3 years I had to use it bottom up or side up, and on year 5 there was no way besides replacing the driver, which I preffered to change to PS2 entirely) and my PS2 also were wear down but still reading with some tries. Should I consider that as failure rate similar to RROD? I posted it because the console did "break with me". But if we are going to use "infinite time" as measure them all machine failed or will fail, so it's obnoxious comparation.
Now while on the warranty or 1-2 year use 5-10% is quite probably true and still above industry standard and why it wasn't considered reliable at the time. But sure compare a disc reading system to a cartridge and show your knowledge about mechanics.
Funny enough I have found a lot more than this, but I won't post here, if you like the image of a 40% failure rate for PS2 and under 20% for RROD early models X360 it's your choice it won't change facts.
LudicrousSpeed said:
360 - I went through three of these. The first two due, of course, to RROD. lol, I remember being so excited about getting the first "repair" back, I could finally rejoin all my coworkers in our nightly late night Search & Destroy CoD4 marathons. I unpacked it, hooked it up, 10 minutes later it was flashing RROD again. Second "repair" lasted a few days I think. Finally the third console they sent back was actually a new model and never gave me any troubles.
Xbone - My Xbox One died recently and to be honest idk if I am going to pay for the repair or if I am done with MS. I hit up support because one game was making my console lag and would barely load, all other apps and games were just fine. The agent directed me to the Xbone offline diagnostic tool page and basically just told me good luck and that's all the help I got. I followed his instructions and it didn't work. But then, neither did my console. After days of talking with support I was told to try another file system off the page, no dice. I was then told by an agent that I was originally given bad repair support and told the wrong thing and that as a result my console was bricked and MS would be happy to pay for the repair. I sent it in as instructed, then a few days later got an email from someone at the repair center saying they had my unit but no repair order. So I talk to support again and then they say the other agent was wrong, it isn't their fault the unit bricked, and I don't get a free repair. I told them to send it back, that I wouldn't pay to fix their mistake. Someone from escalated support contacted me and she is supposedly trying to work out some sort of courtesy repair. If they honor their word, cool, I will continue to support them over my PS4 since I like the UI and controller more. If not, fuck em, I have a PS4 and will buy a secondary backup PS4 before I'd spend $100+ to fix their mistake.
By the way, I think the most durable console I have ever owned is the Genesis. Mine was submerged for hours in a flood but as soon as I dried it out I was back to playing NBA Jam just fine. |
Well at least you had your X360 failed and covered and ended up with a reliable model that you could use for years after warranty =]
And I'm sorry about your X1, they seemed to be a lot more reliable than previous gen Xbox by what we were seeing, could the customer line employee being this BS because the issue is smaller and within expected rates? I hope it solve out. I hate those agents that always says the previous was wrong and just wash out as that wasn't supposed to be a company mistake that they need to take care. They operate like each one is only responsible by what they say and the company isn't responsible by none, quite moronic =[
My genesis was quite resilient as well, although it only experienced several falls due to me being a young kid and wires, but never had moisture on it.
Cobretti2 said:
DonFerrari said:
So you had 2 consoles that failed but you didn't reported, but wanted to report the playstation failures? You say you didn't claim it was a mass wide problem but wanted to buff the numbers with a person you know, but also didn't want to put the numbers of friends that hadn't high failures like you or this one had, right?
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You're making a mountain out of a mole hill here.
I just stated some numbers. I didn't even go on a rant about how shit a PS2 is, why? because I don't have to. Consoles back then were literally plug and play so if it died who cares, replace it and put your game and memory card in another. 360 as you can see in my earlier post, I stayed away from launch models, because I CBF backing up my hdd, profile settings etc... with the fear it will die and I have to start from scratch.
As for the two items, my 360 still works, the dvd tray gets jammed sometimes cause of the front flap spring being too tight (hardly a broken console), And as for the NES, if I really wanted to stop the flashing light I could have manually fixed the pins to have a tighter grip on the cart, so hardly a broken console.
I only consider a broken console where I can't get the game to boot up or the system to bootup.
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Am I? You use a definition different than the OP just to make a point that is skewed and I'm to fault? Were each of your system booting up? Was their problem defects or wear down?
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