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Forums - Sales - Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - week 52 2015 (Dec 21-27)

Splatoon and Mario Maker have pulled through this year for Wii U! I guess this shows that Nintendo still has a lot of importance when it comes to the game industry in Japan. I'm glad 3DS is still selling well despite a decline in sales and being the oldest console outside of the PS3 that are still selling.

I'm a little sad for #FE, hoping that people would take a chance on this particular type of JRPG on Wii U. But I guess that Wii U doesn't have that particular aduience. As I said before, I hope this doesn't detract Atlus and/or Nintendo from future collaborations.

It's kinda unfortunate that Xbone sold only half as much this week compared to last year. Nevertheless, I'm glad everyone else improved over last year (besides 3DS and Xbone).



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FE...I don't get it, the game looks good.



lonerism said:
OttoniBastos said:
Roronaa_chan said:
Why didn't they buy SMT FE?

FE fanbase is on 3DS

SMT fanbase is mostly on 3DS

Persona fanbase(which,lets face it,this game is trying to pander to) is mostly on Playstation.

 

I don't get it

Despite the smaller userbase, 3DS and WiiU shares the same audience. I mean, who bought Fire Emblem on the 3DS would buy Fire Emblem on WiiU too

#FE bombing just doesn't make any sense to me, I guess this the Tomb Raider scenario?

Where DA FUCK did you get that from? 

 

edit: and this isn't fire emblem. It has Fire emblem but it isn't fire emblem. 





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I am VERY SURPRISED to see Just Dance Yokai Watch in the TOP 30! + selling 9k+!!!!!!



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Jranation said:
I am VERY SURPRISED to see Just Dance Yokai Watch in the TOP 30! + selling 9k+!!!!!!

Well, it also was overshipped and is already discounted. It is the sort of title that would sell better during the holidays though.



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Nintendo choose a poor date to release SMTxFE.

They knew in December everyone would be buying Splatoon and Mario Maker. And people with other consoles would also be buying games for them,

They should have left this game for 2016 in a month with no competition.



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Great to see Wii U and 3DS tearing up the charts, fully deserved sales for two great systems.



lonerism said:
                                     

I don't get it

Despite the smaller userbase, 3DS and WiiU shares the same audience. I mean, who bought Fire Emblem on the 3DS would buy Fire Emblem on WiiU too

#FE bombing just doesn't make any sense to me, I guess this the Tomb Raider scenario?

#FE is a game that is expected to be rated M by ESRB.  That definitely puts it more in the class of Persona and SMT and a little less in the world of Fire Emblem.  Games that are rated M have not had a good history on the Wii U.  Bayonetta, which had a huge marketing push by Nintendo, has been severely overtacked on VGChartz and is apparently nowhere near 1 million, while games like Devil's Third and Fatal Frame have recieved a limited retail or digital-only  release.

 

That said, I don't think that these poor sales should be a surprise to Nintendo (or Atlus).  Making a game a game that is a cross-over between two niche IPs within an already niche genre generally is not going to be a good idea, sales-wise.  #FE is clearly a game that was made for Nintendo's hardcore... A vocal group of mature Nintendo gamers who are not going to be satisfied with Yoshi's Woolly World.  It's nice to see that Nintendo cares about these fans and is willing to take some small losses to keep them around.  I am sure that Nintendo is paying ATLUS on actual costs for this game and so I doubt that ATLUS has lost any money here and whatever minor losses that Nintendo has suffered from #FE could probably be recouped with a cheap re-release on Nintendo's next gen of handhelds.



Hiku said:

Kresnik said:

Also, some not-so-good software.  Mainly #FE, which I expected to do badly and still did terribly.  Audience mis-match at its finest.

It was reported to be stocked low to begin with, and looks like that turned out to be correct. There were reports of how it only sold through a certain percentage of it's already low stock at one certain retailer in Japan. A percentage number which escapes me at the moment. But on the other hand, the #FE bundle was sold out. They speculated that it may be because people heard that the loading times are significantly faster on the digital version of the game.

Not trying to imply the "99% digital sales" argument, but it's something to consider.

But yeah, I wish it had done better. =/

Sad and strange.

 

Sad maybe, but not that strange. They teased 2 small and hardcore fanbases (SMT/Persona and Fire Emblem) and didn't deliver. They chose to do some idol anime generic looking JRPG instead (Persona 4 Dancing All Night : The JRPG Edition, without the P4 cast). The communication around the title was weird at best (with some uninteresting WTF videos). I was expecting a flop, I'm not disappointed (and they expected it too if you look at the stocks). It will surely flop even harder in the West (Wii U small userbase, Persona 5 incoming, "How are they going to market this thing"...).

 

I'm a huge Persona and Fire Emblem fan, and I always felt kinda insulted, or at least hugely disappointed, by this game, especially after dreaming about what a crossover would look like. I hope they will think about it again and develop a real crossover, without the pink idol "Let's all be friends and sing !" atmosphere. I love a lot of "stupid looking japanese weaboo stuff" (when it's done well), but I had enough of this poorly done idol crap in P4DAN (but at least, the story is not the main part in a rythm game... It's different in a JRPG).



SpokenTruth said:
Illusion said:

#FE is a game that is expected to be rated M by ESRB. 

Are you sure of that?  In Japan, it has the equivelant of the ESRB E10+.



Hmm, that's interesting.  I was just going off of what was said at the beginning of the E3 Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHkhJ1LvtkM

Thank you for pointing that out. In either case, the fact that it is not being rated as a mature title in Japan seems to defeat my argument.