I doubt that was the issue.  star wars return of the jedi was heavily infulence by the marketing division.  That the reason Gary Kurtz did not produce the 3rd film.  He felt the script George Lucas wanted for the 3rd film was to heavily influcence by the toy making division.

http://mashable.com/2014/09/27/star-wars-myths-gary-kurtz/#QVc1Zo82tqqU

From the interview

I disagree.  The force awakens was the best movie of 2015.  What made it bad?  I love how it was similar in story to A New Hope and I have not met one person if the dozen or so people I know in life who have seen it who didn't like it.  It was a good show.  How can anyone watch that movie and not appreciate how well they did on it?

Really? I liked that Kylo was basically an anti-Vader. He was unhinged and rash where Vader was cool and collected nearly all of the time. It would have been lame to have just another Vader with a different name.

Plust I liked his fighting style. It was powerful but not particularly well honed, it will be interesting to see if it tightens up in the later movies.

Edit: I will also say that I personally liked most of the new characters. I liked Fin, I really liked Po (Hope we see more of him in VIII and IX), I am a bit cold about Rey though. Not because she seemed to be good at everything, it's Star Wars, the main character is always OP, she was just a little dry.

We3 need an option to unubscribe from threads.

This one keeps popping up on my Buddy list, and the replies have been abysmally shallow, lacking in insight or going in circle far too much for me to be interesting in what can come out of it at this point.

There's a good reason why the light saber duels in the new film were so much more... raw, unrefined and "epic". The film follows on from the original trilogy where the duels were far less choreographed. The mass duels and epic fights in the prequels worked because everything was supposed to be better at that point. The Jedi were at the peak of their power and it showed in the battle sequences. The battles in VII are supposed to be unrefined and rough as none of the characters involved in the lightsaber duels really know what they're doing. They're virtually playing at being Jedi/Sith.

On the characters I actually loved the new characters. They were more believable and actually had more development/backstory than most of the characters in the previous films.

Absolute nonsense and gros hypebole...It is miles better then any of the prequels...juts from the acting and writing alone,  Anyone who says this is worse then the prequels doesn;t know what acting, story and dialog are like lol. It had flaws but it was a solid film.

?? How can you tell by a trailer? sounds like confirmation bias, you didn;t even watch the movie. ugh. Horrible post.

Doesn;t matter if you make something new if it's hot garbage like Lucas's prequels were....This is just a restart for the franchise, it makes sense yo get it back on track first, then the sequel can break new ground, no trouble to tell you guys don't understand the economics of movie making.

What bad movies are we talking about ? This year we had Age of Ultron wich isnt as good as the first Avengers but tis a pretty decent movie and Antman wich is great. Last year we had Winter Soldier and Guardians of the galaxy, both were aesome movie by any standards. Also the Batman trilogy is consisted of 2 good movies and 1 awesome (the 3rd one some ppl think is only OK), so in the last 2 years Disney/Marvel gave us more than that already, they gave us 2 awesome movies and 2 good ones (with Age of Ultron some ppl thinking is only OK).

Pretty much this, FA needed to play it safe and to put things back on track, if this movie failled all the plans for a Star Wars Universe would go down the drain. The movie did what it intended to do perfectly well, it feels like Star Wars, ppl are excited for what is comming next and are talking about Star Wars again, the new characters are relatable and a new generation of kids got into the universe now, we have a 60 page long thread going on here dicussing it for crying out loud, the movie did exactly what it set out to do, lay the foundations for everythign else that will come on this universe and make ppl think/talk star wars again.

Ppl liked him because he was Sam Jackson and because in the expanded universe he had some amazing stories (most of wich arent even canon anymore), like inventing a lightsaber fighting style himself and being cosidered a better duelist than even Yoda. However the character was very badly written on the movies, he had very little depth, even his strength is not that clear, most ppl just asumed he was strong cause he had a purple lightsaber and was Sam Jackson. 

Finn isnt suposed to be cool, he is suposed to be a good character, with depth, wich he is, the cool one is Poe.

Truthfully I think the OT will probably never be topped. It was lightning in a bottle that caught Lucas at his peak when he was a very different person and had just the *perfect* mix of other collaborators at the exact right time.

Disney could make another 20 Star Wars films and probably never seriously top the originals. Lets look at it.

A New Hope - Was mindblowing special effects that revolutionized everything. No one had seen *anything* like that before. As a a result it's pretty much impossible for another Star Wars movie to have *that* kind of impact. This was a cultural milestone that defined the late 1970s. Can't be topped in other words.

Empire Strikes Back - The perfect Star Wars movie; it made the bold choice to be serious about the subject matter and stop with the "wink, wink, this is for kids" stuff. It elevated the themes to a nightmarish level. The wonderful, masterful introduction of the Yoda character as expanding the "Force" concept into a zen-religious philosophy that gave the franchise tremendous spiritual gravitas that connects to people in a deep way. And then you have one of the ultimate plot twists in movie history that changes how you view everything in the saga. Every beat in this movie just works, every subplot works.

Return of the Jedi - OK, not perfect. The 1st half has some sillinesss/meandering and the Ewoks were a shuddering foreshadowing of what would come with Lucas becoming obsessed with kiddie silliness to counter balance the darkness that was creeping into the saga. But still, what needs to work in this film resoundingly works -- the Emperor/Luke/Vader scenes are the best in the trilogy and offer a tremendous emotional catharsis by the end. Also the Emperor Palpatine was a wonderful addition to the trilogy, you know that sinking feeling when you realize as evil as you thought Darth Vader was .... he's a puppy dog compared to Emperor. *That's* scary. Because so much good was set up in ANH and ESB, ROTJ can cruise by on that and it finishes with a thunderous slam dunk.

I didn't have high expectations after the prequels for Star Wars honestly, TFA was about what I thought it would be ... a movie that would return the fun, "rag tag characters who care about each other" type dynamic to the trilogy and lay off the overly cartoony fetishes that Lucas became obsessed with. And a ton of nostalgia. That's pretty much exactly what TFA was. 

In a way the OT, especially Empire, is a bit of a curse for Star Wars. Once people got a taste of Star Wars being serious, pyschological, and philosophical to another level that Empire brought to the table ... it's been impossible for any of the sequels/prequels to live up to that level. If Star Wars had stayed kind of the silly, not-so-serious jeez-whiz adventure film that was A New Hope, it would be a different issue.