You're so right. It's disgusting that this movie is making as much money as it is and breaking all records. I don't get how people can overlook these flaws. Ren was a horrible villain once he took the mask off. He looks like Napoleon Dynamite for crying out loud. I'm not at all excited about Rey training with Luke, she beats Ren in one of the sloppiest lightsaber battles ever. Had she lost in the battle, I would actually be excited for her training. Instead, I'm hoping for Ren to get stronger. Terrible writing. 

To be honest, there were at least 3 or 4 scenes about how powerful Chewie's bow caster is. Han Solo kills like 5 guys with 1 shot in one scene.

For Ren to not pop like a balloon when hit, means that his armor is very strong or he managed to lower the impact with the force. Either way, to be able to fight after being hit is incredible.

Wow that cant just be a coincidence. My problem with Plagueis being Snoke is that it seriously weakens Sidius, he was just another pawn in the scheme, Plagueis managed to orchestrate everything from the shadows and Sidius never noticed.

If this stuff about Ren's lightsaber is true, I do hope they go into it in the next movie. Its a detail I'm okay with them leaving out in this movie, but it ought to be addressed in the sequel, at least off handedly.

Well, Plagueis being alive doesn't mean Sidious was manipulated at all. It could just mean that Sidious was wrong about him not being able to cheat death himself.

I mean, I honestly can't even think of how or why Plagueis would even need to be involved in Sidious' plot. Seems more likely Plagueis survived, fled to the unknown regions, and saw an opportunity when his old apprentice was killed and the Sith were effectively wiped out.

 I also have a good suspicion that Snoke may be Plagueis and I think that would be fantastic.  Not only would it tie in the 9 movies together, but they would have so many directions they could take his character as well.

I definitely hear what you are saying with Sidious..but take it the other direction as well.      Sidious was so incredibly powerful with both his fighting skills, his planning and disception and just overall with the Force that this wouldn't make him look weak IMO.  I think it would just add a whole new level of power to be wreckened with.

Sidious was so arrogant and so certain of his power that possible events were taking place behind his back just as how he operated in the shadows of a Jedi Order which was so  overconfident it was blind to his activities.   Sidious took on and easily beat some of the greatest Jedi of their era, as well as toyed with Darth Maul and his brother at the same time.   I don't think you can weaken that honestly.   It is also possible if Snoke is Plagueis that his true power was his ability to survive, and he just retreated into the darkness and waited for his time to take over.  

But....if they do go the Plagueis route I am absolutely hopeful they go the with him orchestrating a lot of the events from start to finish.   The line in the third movie about Plagueis having the ability to "create life", would be a perfect explanation as to how Anakin was born to a fatherless pregnancy.   The chosen one who is pre-disposed to the dark side from birth, whom will orchestrate the prophesy of "balance to the force" that they all hoped for.  Except it was also Yoda with a very quick little line indicating that the prophesy may have been misread and not mean what they thought.  This is exactly what happened when a thousand year jedi reign was ended and brought both sides to equal numbers.  Now only Luke stands in his way of supremecy from the dark or light, so he turned a susceptible young Kylo against the new Jedi but left Kylo undertrained, and just like Han said would destroy him once he completed his tasks.

I am sorry if I want a good, coherent story in the movies I watch.

I'm a bit late to the party but amp316 hit the nail on the head.

As much as people don't care for Lucas anymore, one thing I do respect him for was his desire to make each and every Star Wars film unique.

Nothing wrong with that at all. However, if you're gonna be a stiffler for detail then I hereby submit that you should have never even given this movie a chance because not a single one of the Star Wars movies has a "good, coherent story" to the point were I can't disect every single one of them to the point of ridiculousness if I were so inclined. 

They're just grand soap operas, dressed in sci-fi spectacle. They're meant to offer a very simple type of entertainment. The story is of second tier importance here. The writer's top priority in a flic like this is creating likeable characters, that the audience will root for, and putting them in situations they can shine in.

If you feel they failed in that, fair enough, but don't tell me you were going into Star Wars looking for a story that doesn't resemble Swiss cheese if you look past the surface.

What stuf are we talking about ? The stuf about his lightsaber being unstable/not well crafted ? It isnt adressed directly but its noticeable, the beam of Rens lightsaber flickers a lot and is all jagged, its most definetly not a well put together lightsaber. Kinda like Lukes green one actualy.

Totally.  Sometimes I think people forget what Star Wars is, and how the older films were totally full of plotholes, bad decisions, devoid of logic, etc. They are just movies.

Star Wars has always been nitpicked to death more than any other franchise. People change I guess and as they get older their perception of things change.

But there are cases where people just want to hate on whatever is popular or rain on someone else's parade or want attention and I think this is the case in most of the discussions about The Force Awakens.