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Angelus said:
Magicstorm said:
I just can't believe how absolutely ridiculous this argument is...like at all.

This is Star Wars. As it was stated a thousand times by Lucas in the past 40 years it was written as a space opera for kids, a bubblegum type of story.

The original Star Wars was so full of unexplained plot holes and character underdevelopment that all of those arguments towards this movie just need to be thrown the heck out. It wasn't until another 2 movies came out to explain in more detail, and countless viewings over 20 years with an entire expanded universe created to fill in the gaps.

Still, remove a person from any sort of expanded universe explanations regarding just about anything and it can be torn apart. However, when there are legit, explained reasons in accepted expanded universe they can't just be overlooked. Just like almost any movie or tv series, the plot can be completely destroyed when examined close enough. But also true to real life there are an endless amount of events that occur beyond logical reasoning, because quite simply that's just how life is. It's a terrible exercise picking apart a movie that was not made to be intricate to begin with and was clearly made for both kids and the hardcore fans that cried out for something close to the original. A great many things will be explained as the trilogy continues anyway.

Also, to me it is very clear that the OP overreacted with his initial post, and is now going to heavy lengths to debate his argument in spite of his true feelings due to pride, even if they are still negative to some degree. The movie was not was he was envisioning in his own mind, and when you watch something this big with that kind of mind set it can only set up disappointment.

 

So very very true.

Some people try way too hard to get in the way of their own entertainment. 

I am sorry if I want a good, coherent story in the movies I watch.