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Is it fine to be hateful towards whites?

Yes, because (your own reason), 5 4.76%
 
No, racism is racism, no excuses. 94 89.52%
 
Other 6 5.71%
 
Total:105

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfpmJ9psiSk

Tehe.



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Blm is just as stupid as any other hashtag that's come before it. All centered around a few viral videos... White violence happens too, just those bids don't go viral. There's no systematic racism in USA or UK, get over yourself stupid sjws



As each side try to shout down others as they pretend to be bigger victim, each side further drives themselves to the extreme.

Once that is done, they paint each opposition as that extreme, because that makes it easier to draw a conclusion. If you judge something by what you just hear about the community, do you even know how VGChartz sounds? For that matter, how most internet community sounds? You can't make up entire community from some pieces that they can't even control. Real life community don't have permanent ban hammer.

You could say double standard, but isn't your side - that talks about victimization of white - just as strong if not stronger than black lives matter? Because it certainly seems so based on major news outlet and communities. They were strong way before the movement even came to place.

No, regardless of race, people can't just make 'fun' out of other group of people and get away with it. You just made a perfect example yourself. Honestly, this whole discussion is a bait. We stopped discussion about problem that started this movement, and it became a racial hate bait to fight each other.

And obviously someone brings up the Al Sharpton. Since he is a Reverend, that statement is biblically correct. But so called 'biblical historical fact' tends to be very illogical. Major critics of Al Sharpton are also in BLM, for that matter.



I agree completely.

It's interesting in my opinion. I am against Black Lives Matter; but I am also against All Lives Matter.

Both "groups" in theory should be fine and logical. One group (BLM) pushing for Blacks to stop being discriminated against by media, the police, other races, ect.

Another group (ALM) pushing for every life to be cherished no matter what race they are.

However; both groups don't actually do/say what they SHOULD be doing/saying for the most part.

BLM tends to attack whites and overall hold a huge grudge because of the obvious factor of slavery. They want to be not only held equal to whites but push for more discrimination/segregation away from whites in order to be superior. While on the other end ALM wants to take away from BLM is saying completely and thinks that everybody is already equal in this day and age as of TODAY. ALM belives that racism basically does not exist and tend to 100% support cops/police force no matter what the situation is with their reasoning of "you shouldn't have broken the law"

IN REALITY: Both groups are idiotic. There is never a thing as 100% good/evil. Not cops are not racist. All Americans are all are bigots. Not all whites hate blacks vic versa.

The problem is you have to dissect each situation individually in order to see actual progress when it comes to racism and stereotypes. The fact of the matter is; if a white person sees a black man in a hoodie at 11 pm at night; he/she will MOST LIKELY think/act very differently of that person compared to if the hooded man was white.

And on the other side of the plate if blacks see white people playing sports like basketball or dancing at an event they will think they are inferior to the blacks at that same activity.



Basically; TLDR; stereotypes are bad. They are supported by many generations of hate toward other races. They will eventually die out; although it will take a while.



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Aeolus451 said:
BMaker11 said:
Aeolus451 said:

 


 Might as well be the boy who cried wolf. There's plenty of examples in everyday life in america of reverse racism and the hypocrypsy surrounding it. You would have to either be blind (intentionally or unintentionally) or not from US to know of it. 

Until white people are instutionally oppressed, given less opportunity due to their race, profiled more by police departments, etc etc (pretty much, a reduction in power as a class), then there is no "reverse racism". Prejudice happens, yes. But it's not "reverse racism". Firstly, because racism is racism. To give white people a "special" form of racism called "reverse racism" is just bolstering their already privileged status. If a black person is prejudiced against a Hispanic "oh, he's just racist against Mexicans". If he's prejudiced against Arabs "oh, he's just racist against Arabs". But if he's prejudiced against a white person, it's "reverse racism"? Giving white people their own classification for racism makes it seem like it's "worse" for them, which isn't true. 

Secondly, scale. OP mentions if a black person says something about whites, it just gets laughed at. But if a white person says something about blacks, it gets called racist. There is technically a double standard here, but think about historical context here. "But when they say it....." wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't 400 years of history of black people being 3rd class citizens (only recently being considered 2nd class citizens, and finally "equals" in the last few decades). A few black people saying something about white people, and what happens? Nothing. Black people across the country, though, get jobs less if their name is "black", for example, even if the credentials are there. Are these really "reverses" of each other? White people get made fun of, of have disparaging things said about them; black people's livelihoods are lessened by the mere fact that they're black. What's "reverse" about that. The scale of the "racism" isn't equal on both sides.

I know it just sounds like semantics, but it really isn't. Terminology matters, in this instance

How do you think words come into being? Do they just magically appear? People make them up and over time other people accepts it as a "word". 

It's very difficult to take a group of people seriiously about racism when they are hypocrites about it. It tells me that they don't actually care about being rid of racism but about getting special treatment in general. I've been burnt out of any sympathy on race issues for a very long time. 

 Don't give me that "priveleged" line of bullshit. It's a detracts from what actually matters. If someone wants a better quality of life, go to school and start a decent career, trade or open up a business. Do well for your self and your kids will benefit from it. It has nothing to do with race but with common sense.

People of all races have been racist to another race at some point so keeping a tally serves no purpose. Racism in all of it's forms is bad and the only way to be rid of it is if people move past the drama and just let it go. Stop caring about race at all. Seeing each person as a person. Skin color should only serve as a way to identify a person versus that being their identity completely.

You talk about getting rid of racism but then say "priveleged" is a line of bullshit

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/

There's more, as well. Don't call this bullshit. Don't say that it detracts. Fixing these things help fix the problem as a whole. You have to start somewhere.

Also, "reverse racism" did "magically appear". It was something Republicans made up in order to oppose things like Affirmative Action. Racism is racism. Discrimination is discrimination. To throw a "reverse" in it makes it seem like it's targeting only white people. This makes it seem worse than it is and, thus, is it a "worse" problem......because it's white people on the receiving end of some mistreatment. Somebody saying something disparaging about white people is no worse than saying something about Asians; is no worse than saying something about Arabs; is no worse than saying something about Indians, etc. "Screw the chinks" and "screw whitey" are the same. One isn't racist, but the other "reverse racist". It makes it seem like you can be racist against anyone, but when you're racist against white people, it's something different; something special. That does have to do with privilege





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BMaker11 said:
Aeolus451 said:
BMaker11 said:
Aeolus451 said:

 


 Might as well be the boy who cried wolf. There's plenty of examples in everyday life in america of reverse racism and the hypocrypsy surrounding it. You would have to either be blind (intentionally or unintentionally) or not from US to know of it. 

Until white people are instutionally oppressed, given less opportunity due to their race, profiled more by police departments, etc etc (pretty much, a reduction in power as a class), then there is no "reverse racism". Prejudice happens, yes. But it's not "reverse racism". Firstly, because racism is racism. To give white people a "special" form of racism called "reverse racism" is just bolstering their already privileged status. If a black person is prejudiced against a Hispanic "oh, he's just racist against Mexicans". If he's prejudiced against Arabs "oh, he's just racist against Arabs". But if he's prejudiced against a white person, it's "reverse racism"? Giving white people their own classification for racism makes it seem like it's "worse" for them, which isn't true. 

Secondly, scale. OP mentions if a black person says something about whites, it just gets laughed at. But if a white person says something about blacks, it gets called racist. There is technically a double standard here, but think about historical context here. "But when they say it....." wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't 400 years of history of black people being 3rd class citizens (only recently being considered 2nd class citizens, and finally "equals" in the last few decades). A few black people saying something about white people, and what happens? Nothing. Black people across the country, though, get jobs less if their name is "black", for example, even if the credentials are there. Are these really "reverses" of each other? White people get made fun of, of have disparaging things said about them; black people's livelihoods are lessened by the mere fact that they're black. What's "reverse" about that. The scale of the "racism" isn't equal on both sides.

I know it just sounds like semantics, but it really isn't. Terminology matters, in this instance

How do you think words come into being? Do they just magically appear? People make them up and over time other people accepts it as a "word". 

It's very difficult to take a group of people seriiously about racism when they are hypocrites about it. It tells me that they don't actually care about being rid of racism but about getting special treatment in general. I've been burnt out of any sympathy on race issues for a very long time. 

 Don't give me that "priveleged" line of bullshit. It's a detracts from what actually matters. If someone wants a better quality of life, go to school and start a decent career, trade or open up a business. Do well for your self and your kids will benefit from it. It has nothing to do with race but with common sense.

People of all races have been racist to another race at some point so keeping a tally serves no purpose. Racism in all of it's forms is bad and the only way to be rid of it is if people move past the drama and just let it go. Stop caring about race at all. Seeing each person as a person. Skin color should only serve as a way to identify a person versus that being their identity completely.

You talk about getting rid of racism but then say "priveleged" is a line of bullshit

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/

There's more, as well. Don't call this bullshit. Don't say that it detracts. Fixing these things help fix the problem as a whole. You have to start somewhere.

Also, "reverse racism" did "magically appear". It was something Republicans made up in order to oppose things like Affirmative Action. Racism is racism. Discrimination is discrimination. To throw a "reverse" in it makes it seem like it's targeting only white people. This makes it seem worse than it is and, thus, is it a "worse" problem......because it's white people on the receiving end of some mistreatment. Somebody saying something disparaging about white people is no worse than saying something about Asians; is no worse than saying something about Arabs; is no worse than saying something about Indians, etc. "Screw the chinks" and "screw whitey" are the same. One isn't racist, but the other "reverse racist". It makes it seem like you can be racist against anyone, but when you're racist against white people, it's something different; something special. That does have to do with privilege



Perhaps, they are being arrested more because they're doing more drugs or they are easier to catch. Serial killers for instance, are generally white males. Does that mean they are being targeted by cops for that type of crime? Maybe, it's just truth that the majority of serial killers are white males. Sometimes, the dislikable choice is the most likely truth.

You're taking reverse racism or reverse discrimination that it means it's "special". It's no different than normal discrimination or racism No one implied that it is special. Yes, you're right that racism means racism but quite a few people view discrimination against whites or the majority as nothing but what they deserve. Some people think that only minorities can be discriminated against and only they deserve some kind of special treatment for it. Hence, why the term reverse racism or reverse discrimination came about. 

Privilege has jack shit to do with race. If someone's family did well in the past, the future generations benefit from their hard work and intelligence. There's obvious perks that come with that but no one should be punished for doing well for themselves. I'm not gonna give the little guy a handout just to give him a leg up on someone who's family did well for themselves. No one is keeping the poor or uneducated from attaining wealth or increasing their quality of life except themselves. Want wealth? Earn it. Want privileges or status that go with wealth? Earn it. This is not a country where everyone gets the same share of the pie regardless of talent, effort, drive and intelligence. You make dumb life choices, you live with it. You make a few smart choices, you live with it. 



siavm said:
So cops targeting and killing blacks and people saying they should be accountable is a hate group to the people here. Ok. Nice to know why Donald is going to be president.

 


? No. Don't make this a black-or-white situation. With social media, people have the power to flip the chessboard easily. There are situations that the media lie about to make it a race issue(look at Ahmed the Clock kid). Sure, police can be the people who caused the problem. However, the BLM community is extremely biased, and makes it seem as though anything against black people is apparently due to race.

 

There are people that cause problems with policemen. I wonder why the BLM community is not talking about it. I am quite sure they were acting for "equality".



 

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fireburn95 said:
Blm is just as stupid as any other hashtag that's come before it. All centered around a few viral videos... White violence happens too, just those bids don't go viral. There's no systematic racism in USA or UK, get over yourself stupid sjws

 


I recall a while back a policeman shot a six year old autistic kid( and the policeman was black). The kid was white. The policeman was black. This time, the situation was opposite of society's expectations.

 

I never saw any outrage from the BLM community(who apparently stand up against the police). It's disappointing how they'll get mad at a policeman using violence towards people resisting, but won't say a word when a six year old is shot for no reason.

 

Here's the video if you like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jaHFr8b8qs

 

The moment I read Malcolm X's biography, I woke up. I realized the BLM community is nothing but rubbish. Standing for all races and being against all discrimination is what leads to an equal country(not completely equal, but a better country). Bashing whites won't do us any good.



 

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Kagerow said:
As each side try to shout down others as they pretend to be bigger victim, each side further drives themselves to the extreme.

Once that is done, they paint each opposition as that extreme, because that makes it easier to draw a conclusion. If you judge something by what you just hear about the community, do you even know how VGChartz sounds? For that matter, how most internet community sounds? You can't make up entire community from some pieces that they can't even control. Real life community don't have permanent ban hammer.

You could say double standard, but isn't your side - that talks about victimization of white - just as strong if not stronger than black lives matter? Because it certainly seems so based on major news outlet and communities. They were strong way before the movement even came to place.

No, regardless of race, people can't just make 'fun' out of other group of people and get away with it. You just made a perfect example yourself. Honestly, this whole discussion is a bait. We stopped discussion about problem that started this movement, and it became a racial hate bait to fight each other.

And obviously someone brings up the Al Sharpton. Since he is a Reverend, that statement is biblically correct. But so called 'biblical historical fact' tends to be very illogical. Major critics of Al Sharpton are also in BLM, for that matter.

 

That's not why I even started the post. No one cares how something started. I don't care how the BLM community started. What I care for is that BLM(and other groups) are hypocritical to their words and are extremely hateful.



 

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Lol
Lol
Lol
You are whining about prejudice
While isn't right is hilarious in the context of what's going on to the black community
We have a movement that's trying to get equal opportunities and rights for people , and all you have to say is black people have to do better
Have you ever shown support or help for black peoples
Is this your dad way of doing way
Black people are raised in a climate where
There schools are much much worse than their white counterparts
Oh in Nam , while blacks weren't even up to 12 % of us population they made 40% of recruits
They are consistently framed and killed by the police meant to protect them , hence strong distrust of authority
They get longer and harsher sentences than their
Refuse to mention their have been 2 successful black communities that got burnt down , black Wall Street research it
And truth be told , white people are a hell of a lot crazier than black people in general , we have people who constantly
There's a systematic and deep racism oppressing the black people
And you've never said hey that's wrong on here , let me offer some supper
This is all you have to say in opening towards the movement
All movements have issues
But what you're saying is laughable compared to be the big picture , I see some people agreeing with you , you have a point but had you shown some support and empathy prior to this I would have given you an ear but for now , no LOL
Grow up