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oniyide on 15 December 2015
walsufnir said:
oniyide said:
walsufnir said:

 

How so? The game had actually marketing, it was very much spoken about in the "media", it had many, many people who said that the game is still amazing or good and it had close to no competition when it came out. Also, it had the smell of a PS exclusive where people automatically think it's good.

But yeah, the sad part is that a bad game sells more than a good game.

you sound bitter

and do you have proof that Sony bought the rights to have it released exclusively on PS1? kinda sounds like crap considering the series was never exclusive the original released on Saturn and the rest released on PC, hell even GB color had a TR game.

 

When a bad game sells more than a good game, shouldn't every gamer sound bitter?

And of course I have proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_Raider_II

"In September 1997, Sony Computer Entertainment signed a deal with Eidos to make console releases for the Tomb Raider franchise exclusive to the PlayStation, preventing the Sega Saturn or the Nintendo 64 from having any Tomb Raider game released for it until 2000, a deal that would prove very beneficial to Sony both in terms of revenue and also in further cementing the PlayStation's growing reputation as the go-to system for must-have exclusive titles."

Read again what I wrote and you will realize that I said other consoles, PC is not a console.

 

Fair enough, IMHO that was a waste of money as TR wouldve done better on PS anyway. (like every other multiplat game at that time).  Even multiplat it still sells better on PS.

and no im not bitter because i didnt but either game. Would you have cared as much if the Order was an Xbox game and sold better than TR if the situation was reversed? 

Maybe in the future these companies could stop making silly decisions with good games. Dont matter how good a game is if you limit who can play especially to a platform that doesnt have the biggest fans for said game anyway...well look what happens



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oniyide on 15 December 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
Nate4Drake said:
This Game would sell 5 times more on PS4. Shame on XBox common players who only play Call Of Duty.

That's rich, as if CoD isn't the lead franchise on PS4 as well.

Not gamers fault they released it sandwiched between Halo 5, Blops 3, and Fallout 4.

gamers could have chose to get TR over those other 3





method114 on 15 December 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
It's sad that The Order outsold Tomb Raider in their debut months, but only because $60 tech demos like The Order have no business selling more than 4 copies. If nothing else it just proves SE launched the game at the wrong time. Sony delayed The Order into early in 2015 instead of late 2014 and it made a huge difference because there was more time to hype the game and there was nothing else to play. You came off your big fall 2014 games and there was this big anticipated new game coming out. Where as with Tomb Raider you're getting gangbanged already by Fallout 4 and Halo 5, you have no more holes for Tomb Raider.

I don't think it matters for the franchise. SE was reimbursed for the deal naturally.

It's funny cause I heard all these complaints about how short the order was and it's not worth $60. I got the uncharted collection literally beat the  game in 2 days I was shocked at how short it was. I didn't have a problem with it and actually enjoyed the game but it just reminded me of people saying how short the order was. Uncharted 2 has turned out longer and is actually much more in line with what I would expect the game length to be.



LudicrousSpeed on 15 December 2015
oniyide said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

That's rich, as if CoD isn't the lead franchise on PS4 as well.

Not gamers fault they released it sandwiched between Halo 5, Blops 3, and Fallout 4.

gamers could have chose to get TR over those other 3

And there's nothing wrong with choosing any of those 3 over TR.





oniyide on 15 December 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
oniyide said:

gamers could have chose to get TR over those other 3

And there's nothing wrong with choosing any of those 3 over TR.

of course their isnt, but you would think with some people it was, i gaurantee the people who are complaning at least half of them didnt even buy TR



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LudicrousSpeed on 15 December 2015

I agree. I guarantee the guy I quoted who was complaining about sales didn't buy the game on Xbox One.



dangerguy on 15 December 2015

I'm sure this was discussed at length in this thread, but this failure was purely due to the launch date. The moment I heard Nov 10 at E3 (keep in mind, this was after Fallout 4 had been announced to also launch Nov 10), I knew it was doomed. The 3 biggest games of the year (COD, Battlefront, and Fallout 4) and they try to launch Tomb Raider right smack dab in the middle.

It should have released much earlier in October or January/February.

Everyone blaming the Xbox exclusivity is wrong. Yes, PS4 would have added maybe another 200K, but the arrogant release date takes the blame.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 15 December 2015

Bad game, Good Game, such distinctions are meaningless opinions, all that matters is teh sales.

It's hilarious that "its sad a bad game outsells a good game" now that its ROTR vs The Order, as though this is some kind of uncommon occurence.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Eddie_Raja on 15 December 2015
AsGryffynn said:
Eddie_Raja said:

Well at the end of the day this is just conjecture from both of our ends.   You assume MS paid for enough, but honestly I think this is what happened: MS agreed to pay for all of the marketing, and in return SE could push back the PS4 release so they didn't have to compete with Uncharted 4.  But now TR sold terribly on X1 and the PS4 launch is a little closer than it was going to be.

Wouldn't this be wrong though? As far as I know, exclusivity deals have a set expiry date...

 

What would be wrong?



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

LudicrousSpeed on 15 December 2015
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Bad game, Good Game, such distinctions are meaningless opinions, all that matters is teh sales.

It's hilarious that "its sad a bad game outsells a good game" now that its ROTR vs The Order, as though this is some kind of uncommon occurence.

Aw, it's ok friend. If there were other threads I stumbled upon where such a shit game outsold another game I'd say the same thing there :)