Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware and software in OP!

TheGoldenBoy said:
Roronaa_chan said:

BF did 2.10M

VGC has it at 2,25M

That's not 100%.

I think he's talking about the preadjusted numbers in the OP which show that VGC had Battlefront at 2.95 million.



wow.... 





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Still not 100%



ZhugeEX said:
AEGRO said:
leyendax69 said:
ZhugeEX said:
KazumaKiryu said:
PS4 in every country number 1 now. in all countrys in the world. XD

Well.... not in South America. 



Which countries specifically? I live there and hardly know people with an xbox one

 

Exactly. Im from Venezuela and the Xbox One is almost non existant. The X360 was indeed more popular than the Ps3 because of pirated games, but now that piracy is not a concern, people went with the Ps4.

Which is why I said Brazil and Mexico.

In Argentina for example the PS4 is easily outselling the XB1. Mainly due to the year headstart. 

benji232 said:
Wait... so battlefront is over 100% overtracked on vgchartz? Damn... :/ Still good numbers though but not even close of the roughly 5mil vgchartz was predicting.

Actually Battlefront NPD sales are fairly similar to what VGChartz have tracked. 

Where VGChartz differs is with Fallout 4, VGChartz is overtracked by almost 1 million units. 

There are plenty of other examples as well.

My bad guys, was looking at global charts like a moron.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

i hope we get to see more Software numbers from NPD..
pretty slim showing of NPD software numbers



overman1 said:

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duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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think-man said:
Im surprised X1 is still selling so good.

Why are you surprised? I mean, I see a lot of reasons to buy one (PS4 is in the same situation). I don't have time now to write a lot but we can discuss about it later if you like. =)





More charts. Forgot to post these the other day.

 

Well, the PS4 is still no PS2 in the U.S., but then again the PS2 not only utterly dominated the console market back in the first half of the 00s (with the exception of the 2004 Holiday season due to a shortage of PS2 Slims), but it also was selling at $200 back in 2002 after getting a price cut in May of that year ($200 in 2002 dollars is the equivalent of about $265 in current dollars). The PS4 just got its first price cut a couple of months ago, so we'll see what kind of effects that has going into 2016. It will almost certianly never catch back up with the PS2, but it's currently well ahead of where the PS1 and PS3 were at this point in their lives in terms of lifetime sales, and will likely outsell both those systems by a comfortable margin to end up the new #4 best-selling console ever in the U.S.

Meanwhile, the XBO is still holding up well compared to previous Xbox platforms. It will likely sell at least a little better this year than what the 360 sold in 2007 (that is unless it pulls only a million units or less this month). It is worth pointing out though that the 360 was dealing with relatively stagnant sales all the way until 2010 when the 360S was released, after which it experienced a period of growth (which lasted until early 2012) that took it to new heights. I somehow doubt the XBO will see a sudden spike in 2018 that drives it to 8 million units sold. So, though the XBO is tracking a little bit ahead of the the 360 in the U.S., that likely won't persist for more than another year or two. The 360 is already the #2 all-time best-selling console ever in the U.S., and I somehow doubt the XBO will match it. It will likely end up somewhere between the PS1 and PS3 in terms of lifetime sales, which would make it the #6 all-time best-selling console in the U.S.

Overall, I suspect that by the end of their product lives combined PS4 & XBO sales will exceed those of combined PS2 & Xbox sales and be roughly on par with combined 360 & PS3 sales.



Shadow1980 said:

More charts. Forgot to post these the other day.

 

Well, the PS4 is still no PS2 in the U.S., but then again the PS2 not only utterly dominated the console market back in the first half of the 00s (with the exception of the 2004 Holiday season due to a shortage of PS2 Slims), but it also was selling at $200 back in 2002 after getting a price cut in May of that year ($200 in 2002 dollars is the equivalent of about $265 in current dollars). The PS4 just got its first price cut a couple of months ago, so we'll see what kind of effects that has going into 2016. It will almost certianly never catch back up with the PS2, but it's currently well ahead of where the PS1 and PS3 were at this point in their lives in terms of lifetime sales, and will likely outsell both those systems by a comfortable margin to end up the new #4 best-selling console ever in the U.S.

Meanwhile, the XBO is still holding up well compared to previous Xbox platforms. It will likely sell at least a little better this year than what the 360 sold in 2007 (that is unless it pulls only a million units or less this month). It is worth pointing out though that the 360 was dealing with relatively stagnant sales all the way until 2010 when the 360S was released, after which it experienced a period of growth (which lasted until early 2012) that took it to new heights. I somehow doubt the XBO will see a sudden spike in 2018 that drives it to 8 million units sold. So, though the XBO is tracking a little bit ahead of the the 360 in the U.S., that likely won't persist for more than another year or two. The 360 is already the #2 all-time best-selling console ever in the U.S., and I somehow doubt the XBO will match it. It will likely end up somewhere between the PS1 and PS3 in terms of lifetime sales, which would make it the #6 all-time best-selling console in the U.S.

Overall, I suspect that by the end of their product lives combined PS4 & XBO sales will exceed those of combined PS2 & Xbox sales and be roughly on par with combined 360 & PS3 sales.

 

Shadow1980 said:

More charts. Forgot to post these the other day.

 

Well, the PS4 is still no PS2 in the U.S., but then again the PS2 not only utterly dominated the console market back in the first half of the 00s (with the exception of the 2004 Holiday season due to a shortage of PS2 Slims), but it also was selling at $200 back in 2002 after getting a price cut in May of that year ($200 in 2002 dollars is the equivalent of about $265 in current dollars). The PS4 just got its first price cut a couple of months ago, so we'll see what kind of effects that has going into 2016. It will almost certianly never catch back up with the PS2, but it's currently well ahead of where the PS1 and PS3 were at this point in their lives in terms of lifetime sales, and will likely outsell both those systems by a comfortable margin to end up the new #4 best-selling console ever in the U.S.

Meanwhile, the XBO is still holding up well compared to previous Xbox platforms. It will likely sell at least a little better this year than what the 360 sold in 2007 (that is unless it pulls only a million units or less this month). It is worth pointing out though that the 360 was dealing with relatively stagnant sales all the way until 2010 when the 360S was released, after which it experienced a period of growth (which lasted until early 2012) that took it to new heights. I somehow doubt the XBO will see a sudden spike in 2018 that drives it to 8 million units sold. So, though the XBO is tracking a little bit ahead of the the 360 in the U.S., that likely won't persist for more than another year or two. The 360 is already the #2 all-time best-selling console ever in the U.S., and I somehow doubt the XBO will match it. It will likely end up somewhere between the PS1 and PS3 in terms of lifetime sales, which would make it the #6 all-time best-selling console in the U.S.

Overall, I suspect that by the end of their product lives combined PS4 & XBO sales will exceed those of combined PS2 & Xbox sales and be roughly on par with combined 360 & PS3 sales.

That means they'd have to sell over 100 million each, since the PS2 sold nearly 200 million units...

If anything I expect them to go slightly over the 360+PS3 figures. The PS4 by a sizable margin and the Xbox One slightly above it...





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    AsGryffynn said:

    That means they'd have to sell over 100 million each, since the PS2 sold nearly 200 million units...

    If anything I expect them to go slightly over the 360+PS3 figures. The PS4 by a sizable margin and the Xbox One slightly above it...

    PS2 sold 155m, which isn't nearly 200m.
    But are you seriously expecting these kind of numbers?

    • PS4 - 215 million
    • XONE - 197 million

    That's about double, and more than double of what people expect.
    Let's say XB1 hits 20m at the end of December. That's an average of 10m per year. If it keeps doing 10m every year and never declines, it will take over 8,5 years for it to match what X360 did. And to reach your 197 million prediction, it would take 20 years.
    Are you expecting XB1 sales to triple in the the coming years or something? 30m per year from now on? Because that's the only way it would reach 197m within 8 years.

    What kind of crazy math have you been doing here? o.o



    Shadow1980 said:

    I predict that VGC overtracked the XBO by at least 200k. There's just no way it did as well as it did last November.

    So much for this prediction.

    Boutros said:
    Yeesh ethomaz permabanned.

    First Burek, now Ethomaz? I wonder who else will kick the bucket in the December NPD thread.

    Carl2291 said:
    DonFerrari said:

    That was tachikoma warning and headmod supported, he received PM on it as well and several subsequent warnings. Even if he was propping MS he would be banned... he was likely banned 5 times for saying good things about MS, one talking about the Halo bad sales and now he is permabanned.


    You really, really want to stop spreading misinformation.

    binary solo said:

    Wow, so he faced a ban even if he said somerhing like "Xb one sold very well this month"? That's pretty messed up.


    There was no problem with him posting about Xbox in generic sales threads. That isnt why he was banned.

    If you really want to know the ethomaz story, hit up my inbox and Ill be happy to answer any questions. Same goes for anyone else curious about "the straw that broke the camels back".

    There are also other misinformations that are spreading. It was Ethomaz own fault that he was permaban. By the way, Carl could you tell me about "the straw that broke the camels back " or Etho's story?

    Ali_16x said:

    So The Greatest Lineup in Xbox History leads to a 65k increase in 2nd biggest month of of the year compared to that of last year? Lol, wow. This month sure was interesting.

     

    I dont know what's funny, if MS cut the price to $299 at the start of November it will be higher than what it is. It's actually impressive that it is higher than last year even though it had a late price cut. 

     

     

     

     

    By the way people are jumping the gun here.



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