8 million, non-console 3DS sales for those other JRPGs that you just want to gloss over to forward your agenda; your repeated posts on this thread, about the "best" home console (as clearly implied by the OP), pushing the idea that 3DS JRPGs are the only ones that sell and matter makes this all the more apparent.

I find it peculiar that a bulleted list of clear refutations are "highly confusing," but it seems in line with your overall approach to the issue at hand.

He is using a wholly subjective metric: whatever fits and bolster his repetitive rhetoric, which is wholly off-topic.

NNK sold 3x the PS3 and 10x the PS requirement for a "greatest hit" lol.

PS: thank you, Mr. Ferrari.

It's the biggest selling shit sales ever.

I would be crazy happy if my book were niche enough to sell 150k, 1.5M I would be insanely crazy and would go out to take heroin until the end of the year.

Former comment: I hope so, for you.

Latter comment: Mr. Kobain, is that you?

I'm quite off topic so ill leave this thread be.
OT: Neither can truly be superior to each other simply because both share like 90% of their games. I would argue around 90% of each platforms total software sales come from shared games, with 9% going towards first party exclusives, and the remaining 1%....niche stuff such as those niche jrpgs a few gamers(including a mod lol) in this thread are making sound way more important than they are. That would be a very entertaining thread, I wonder how popular it would be among the sony gamers?

i've been waiting for this...

Nintyfan celebrating his successful post:

You keep calling your own posts off topic even tho they are about the sales of games on the systems being talked about in the OP, it almost seems like you are dropping the "This isn't on topic" in the hopes that people wont reply to the rubbish that follows or precedes the off topic tag on your posts here, if you want to just say "I want to abandon this thread so much it hurts" just maybe either type or do that? It could save people some time, yourself included.

Also dear God ReimTime @ that self inflicted nutshot celebration, that was amazing.

As for the thread tho, I mean, the best console is so subjective it's impossible to say what is the best, there was a point sitting in a cafe playing Colin Mc Rae Rally on my N-gage that I thought it was the best portable games machine going. See at the time it was, could play close to ps1 levels of games on a portable which doubled as an almost usable mobile phone, was it objectively the best phone, dear god no, but still there was times for me it was the best thing around.

You could say the Wii-U is the best console if you have family who might often want the use of the TV and you could have to abandon the TV and jump to the gamepad at times, You could say the Xbox would be best if you had a similar situation but had a Win10 PC handy to stream to, the PS4 if you have a Vita around.... fuck it, when it comes to "the best" you could gauge them by which one you could prop a door open with, in which case I think there would be a massive ruling that the X1 would win by a country mile but could cost you your foot if you didn't see it as you passed through the door!

Well.......by THAT logic.....

In all blunt honesty, looking back at past generations:

1. Atari 2600 was not the most powerful of it's gen, but it sold the most and WAS the best console.

2. NES was not the most powerful of it's gen, but it sold the most and WAS the best console, by a country mile.

3. SNES actually was the most powerful of it's gen, unless you count the Neo Geo home unit, which is cheating because that wasn't a home console, it was a home arcade unit. But otherwise, SNES did sell the best of it's gen, and while Genesis had some GREAT games, I think overall most people consider the SNES to be the best system of it's gen.

4. The PS1 was by far the best selling, and certainly not the most powerful. Saturn was a great system that Sega abandoned far too early, and it had some great games. N64 was the most powerful by far, and had some amazing games, some of the very best of that gen (Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Star Fox, Goldeneye, Banjo, Turok, Perfect Dark, etc.), but was held back by the cartridge format, which caused many third parties to make games for PS1 instead. PS1 is widely regarded as the best console of it's gen.

5. The PS2 was by far, again, the best selling console of it's gen, AND it was weaker than GC and Xbox, though not THE weakest, as Dreamcast came before. Xbox had a sensation in Halo, and GC had some truly great games like Smash Bros. Melee, Metroid Prime, RE4, and Pikmin. But again, PS2 had the most third party exclusives, and in general is regarded as the best console of that gen.

6. Getting around to your point, Wii WAS the weakest of it's gen, and the highest selling. However, while the PS3 and 360 certainly had a lot of great games, most of which were third party games that Wii simply did not receive, and both had strong exclusives. The Wii also had a ton of great games, such as Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros. Brawl, MK Wii, Monster Hunter Tri, No More Heroes, Red Steel 2, NSMB Wii, DKCR, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Xenoblade Chronicles, and many more. It is, I think, far more up for debate in that gen which system was "the best", but it was a unique generation in that ALL three systems sold really well, and ALL three had a wealth of good games. And I say that having never been an Xbox fan.

7. Now this gen. It's not over, and still too early to tell, but thus far, PS4 is the most powerful, and the highest selling, and it does seem to be gradually building up a decent exclusives catalog. The Xbone is lagging, and has yet to receive too many "must have" titles. Wii U is certainly a sales disappointment, but it does have a bunch of very strong exclusives, including Xenoblade Chronicles X which just came out. In fact, arguably the two biggest surprises/hits of 2015, Splatoon and Mario Maker, are Wii U titles. But I think, barring something crazy and unforseen, PS4 is going to "win" this generation.


So....I dunno. History tends to show that the best selling consoles, on average, did also have the biggest and most varied game libraries, and are generally regarded as the best. Wii was a strange case in that it was by far the best selling, and DID actually have a shitload of games come out on it, but many key "AAA" third party releases skipped it.


We'll have to see what happens in the future.

Aye, outside of some obvious errors going on here, a lot of this thread could be countered by http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/ that said... it makes for a damn fun read with my morning tea so I wouldn't miss stuff like this for the world.

The image in my head of people sitting around their PS4 this christmas morning while OP yells from outside their window that the console they didn't buy is better warms my heart in some ways.

Main thing about a system being the best for a Gamer, is if you can grab a pad/mouse/keyboard and sit down with it and play some video games which make you happy while you have time off work/studies, I think if you find yourself sitting at it thinking that you need to tell someone else that the console they are sitting at isn't fun to use... then you're just taking from your own enjoyment.