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Forums - Movies & TV - Jessica Jones somehow manages to be an even more boring show than Daredevil (SPOILERS)

H.E.R. on 27 November 2015
JWeinCom said:
Lawlight said:


Think about all the main Netflix shows - OitNB, House of Cards, Sens8 - all with gay/trans protagonists.


Ummmmm... there are gay people in the world.  It makes sense that out of the characters in Jessica Jones, some of them might be gay.  Having gay characters (who aren't portrayed in any particularly positive way) does not equate to an lbgt agenda.  Just means that they're acknowledging that gay people in fact do exist in New York City.  As a New Yorker, I can confirm this.  


I do not believe this. I'm gonna visit NYC right now and challenge your statements!

(takes PATH to Christopher and takes one step outside and goes back without even visiting the Village or Chelsea)

Alright, that was pretty gay. Your statements check out.



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JWeinCom on 27 November 2015
Mnementh said:


Lawlight on 27 November 2015
Darc Requiem said:
Lawlight said:


Think about all the main Netflix shows - OitNB, House of Cards, Sens8 - all with gay/trans protagonists.


I don't watch those shows, so I can't speak to them. That said, if you live in a major city. You are going to run into gay people. Unless you are in some podunk town, most gay people aren't hiding  who they are these days. I think you have a case of confirmation bias. If you are looking for something. You'll find it. I'm not sure how having three lesbian characters, none of which are portrayed in a positive light, is pushing an agenda. Usually when you push an agenda, you want the subject of that agenda to be seen in a positive light. 


Running into gay people, sure. Gay people being in every TV show's main circle of characters. That's overrepresentation.



Lawlight on 27 November 2015
SuperNova said:
Lawlight said:
JWeinCom said:


Ummmmm... there are gay people in the world.  It makes sense that out of the characters in Jessica Jones, some of them might be gay.  Having gay characters (who aren't portrayed in any particularly positive way) does not equate to an lbgt agenda.  Just means that they're acknowledging that gay people in fact do exist in New York City.  As a New Yorker, I can confirm this.  


What percentage of openly lbgt people are there in the US? 3%? Yet when you think of most TV shows in recent memories, there are bound to at least one openly gay character. Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, Arrow, The Walking Dead, Penny Dreadful,  How To Get Away With Murder. Gotta have at least one among the main characters.

How I met your Mother had an openly gay character? Who? Sorry I was just genuinely curious about that one. I haven't seen the last season though, so I may have missed someone. (I'm assuming it's not some one-episode-character here)


Lily is bi. That was made pretty obvious quite a few times.



Lawlight on 27 November 2015
DakonBlackblade said:

Guy comments on one of the best acting ever given on a TV show saying Killgrave is a bad vilain, ye sure man. Its OK to dislike something but the consensus is that the show is excelent so just say you dislike it because you dont liek the tone, the pacing or whatever but it makes you look like a fool when you try to pass your disonant view as a fact. 

 

Next step on the "I hate everything that reviews super great and will voice my opinion as fact telling everyone how delusional they are to like something basicaly everyone likes" agenda is to say The Last of Us is overated, The Lord of the Rings is a terrible movie, Harry Potter is poorly written and Call of Duty has terrible gameplay.

The general consensus is that Indiana Jones 4 is a good movie. You need to stop taking it personally when people criticize your much loved TV series.

 

Mnementh said:
Wonktonodi said:
When you say killgrave is weak, it's probably just because he mostly thinks small, he's not super ambitious otherwise he'd easy be a major super villain. His power was really only limited by what he wants.

Actuall what I was thinking. Mind control is just the ultimate power for evil superheroes and he could easily go for world domination. But his interests are just have fun and get everything he wants. He don't need to achieve positions of power or establish a network of people, because he has the ultimate power over everyone and can make everyone do everything. So no need for him to get world domination. Only his obsession with Jessica Jones brings him at all to do stuff that hurts a bigger amount of people, otherwise it would only be a few.


His powers are just a virus to which plenty of superheroes in the MCU are immune to. My guess is that's why he doesn't bring attention to himself - because he can easily be brought down.



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Mnementh on 28 November 2015
Lawlight said:
His powers are just a virus to which plenty of superheroes in the MCU are immune to. My guess is that's why he doesn't bring attention to himself - because he can easily be brought down.

We don't know the limitations of Kilgraves power not at first and they are still extremely powerful. Also in the TV-series only one single character is immune and we don't know it from the beginning and the immunity is developed not there from the beginning. And sorry, you're illogical. Kilgrave can control all powerful superheroes, that's why Jessica turns down the offer to introduce Daredevil in the end, because she only sees one more powerful opponent she has to fight.

And that his power is made by virus is completely irrelevant to how powerful it is. It would be, if an antidote would have been possible to develop. The powers in Star Wars are created by viruses (or something similar) and nobody says they are weak.



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DakonBlackblade on 28 November 2015
Lawlight said:

The general consensus is that Indiana Jones 4 is a good movie. You need to stop taking it personally when people criticize your much loved TV series.

Ye it is (altough not so good it has a 78% on RT and only 55% from viewers and there are a bunch of very objective reasons why its not realy that good) so if you gona critsize it you gota keep in mind that ppl tend to like it therefore If you try to voice your opinion in absolutes as you did in the OP, tryind to "enlighten ppl" making them see the truth that only you noticed it sounds rater dumb. After the OP you did engage in a nice discussion and toned down from the "everyone is crazy for liking this Im the only one who got it" tone tough.

Lawlight said:

His powers are just a virus to which plenty of superheroes in the MCU are immune to. My guess is that's why he doesn't bring attention to himself - because he can easily be brought down.

I dont think any Avenger is imune to a virus (maybe Hulk, but its unlikely) and the fact of the matter is that Kilgrave never knew how his powers worked until he recaptured his father. He realy never wanted to go for world domination, his a sociopathic narcisist and was content with making ppl service him. And after he found Jessica all he ever wanted was to have her forever, wich was only potentialised by the fact that she was the one that got away.



binary solo on 28 November 2015

Loved Daredevil, loving Jessica Jones. Not everything has to be moar asploshuns. This is like an oldskool PI series, but with superpowers.



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Lawlight on 29 November 2015
binary solo said:
Loved Daredevil, loving Jessica Jones. Not everything has to be moar asploshuns. This is like an oldskool PI series, but with superpowers.


Yeah, it did feel like an old school PI series - in the sense that it's easy to bypass security, no surveillance camera exists, etc. 



Lawlight on 29 November 2015
DakonBlackblade said:
Lawlight said:

The general consensus is that Indiana Jones 4 is a good movie. You need to stop taking it personally when people criticize your much loved TV series.

Ye it is (altough not so good it has a 78% on RT and only 55% from viewers and there are a bunch of very objective reasons why its not realy that good) so if you gona critsize it you gota keep in mind that ppl tend to like it therefore If you try to voice your opinion in absolutes as you did in the OP, tryind to "enlighten ppl" making them see the truth that only you noticed it sounds rater dumb. After the OP you did engage in a nice discussion and toned down from the "everyone is crazy for liking this Im the only one who got it" tone tough.

n the MCU are immune to. My guess is that's why he doesn't bring attention to himself - because he can easily be brought down.

I dont think any Avenger is imune to a virus (maybe Hulk, but its unlikely) and the fact of the matter is that Kilgrave never knew how his powers worked until he recaptured his father. He realy never wanted to go for world domination, his a sociopathic narcisist and was content with making ppl service him. And after he found Jessica all he ever wanted was to have her forever, wich was only potentialised by the fact that she was the one that got away.

Indy 4 is a good movie, huh? Ok...

Iron Man in his suit, Thor, Cap America - none of them will get affected. Kilgrave's motivations were just plot anti-armor so that he would have a weakness.