You don't have to trust them, the average rate is given by the big publishers, not them. And 20% already is the ceiling, not the average anyway. So 300k digital copies is the best you're gonna get.

Puggsly: 700k? Hm..yes... At some point, not first week. BB numbers aren't FW either.

so you take the average digital game sales ration from gamespot, and use it in your argument. but you dont use the fact that they said halo 5 performed in that range. even though they are written in the same article and from the exact same source. fantastic hypocrisy right there.

you are using estimates, that have proven to be wrong time and time again, as a fact to try prove your point.

VGC shows Bloodborne at 1.5 million as of november. Sony says it sold 2 million as of september. VGC must be right and spot on. no way they could possibly be undertracking it. 

@Bolded: im honestly questioning how serious you are when you ask questions like that. 

I'm just going with the number Sony claim. They published the game and have the digital sales info. If you say they're lying, well I don't know your sources.

Either way, you're being overly aggressive considering my source is Sony themselves. So chill the fuck out.

If it was much bigger than expected wouldn't MS have disclosed the total sales of Halo to calm investor's tits?

Gamestop used the 20 to 25 percent because thats the average for a game. Halo 5 is not the average game obviously because it sold more digitally than any other xbox game on opening week. So it makes sense to above the average at least.

He's not being aggressive, he's frustrated by the "lack of logic" - let's put it that way - in your argument and snoopy's argument. 

What he said is pretty simple and if you failed to understand what he meant, I have bad news. Because what he's questionning is VGC's data. Data we all know is as reliable as a safety cable attached to a broken tree branch. So having Bloodborne at 1.5M when Sony says 2M impacts, in no way, the 20% digital sales ratio argument. All we can get from that is that VGC is undertracking the game.

Now let's be real, if Halo 5 sold 50% digitally, Microsoft would have released a PR within minutes to showcase that achievement. Instead, if you followed the whole story, they used Software AND Hardware sales to boost the revenue generated by Halo 5, and it barely reached $400M. Even with $300/$400 consoles, microtransactions and maybe even controllers + obviously the sales of the game (retail x digital). 

If that is not enough for you to understand the game underperformed, then I don't know what can.

Based on his response, it sounds like he questions Sony's data.

"VGC shows Bloodborne at 1.5 million as of november. Sony says it sold 2 million as of september. VGC must be right and spot on. no way they could possibly be undertracking it."

Do you even understand how percentages work? Do you? It's a serious question.

30% of 1M is 300k.

15% of 2M is 300k.

20% of 2M is 400k. 

Can you spot the argument here? Yeaaa buddy good job, percentages don't mean shit until we know the exact number of games sold. So it might be the best selling game on X1, because no game over 400K which is totally normal. It's still 20%, it's still not 50% of the sales.

And no, Halo 5 is not your average game because that's not how it was phrased formerly. The former sentence was something like "digital sales account for 15/25% on average" which totally different. 

Now I'm gonna log out of this forum, before I get banned.

"This is all speculation by an analyst with 'sources.'"

'Instead, you should all believe Gamestop with 'sources.'"

Er...ok