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Is Nintendo finished with 3DS and Wii U after 2016?

Heck yeah!!! 182 71.37%
 
Naw mawn... 73 28.63%
 
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Einsam_Delphin said:
Gamemaster87 said:

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)


Are you like completely turning a blind eye to the Wii U? That thing is in a far worse situation in both sales and software output. The reasons you're using to say the 3DS will be replaced first apply the Wii U tenfold.

Face it: Wii U sales are constant. And it still gets game that make people wanting that system.

The 3DS doesn't get games that make you want the system. If you were interested you have already bought it long ago.

Plus: 3DS sales are falling and falling. Maybe it doesn't seem for you right now that it needs a successor but in 2016 you will see that much clearer. And Nintendo knows that. That's why they are going to replace it first.



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Gamemaster87 said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.

Actually, I think it would be the other way around. First thing to arrive is MyNintendo and mobile games. Then, the NX home console. If the NX trully is a fusion device, the handheld part will need as much power as it can get, to work well with HC software. So one year more to improve the hardware of the handheld might help to close the gap. Also, the system that needs an inmediat successor is the WiiU, the 3DS is still doing great. It's baseline is usually between 80k-110k per week, those numbers aren't low enough to need replacement.

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)

Well, of course it's falling, the system is reaching five years in the market. But even at its worst, 3DS sales trump over the WiiU's. Mobile might have hurt sales a lot, but the device still can sell 80-100k weekly, what is way more that what can be said for the U. They can afford making spin-offs, reusing engines and generally put less efford on the software because handheld games are less demanding, and also the 3DS has a decent 3rd party support (not perfect, but decent). 3DS sales will not be terrible. Weak? Yes, it's going to take a lot of time for the 3DS to reach something close to 70 million, but the sales won't be terrible. And even if they are, the 3DS is quickly reaching a point where everyone that might be interested in the system is getting one, so software sales will continue to be great, which is the thing Nintendo wants the most out of the 3DS.

Maybe you can answer me that question then: What's the point of buying a 3DS in 2016? Any reasons for doing that?

No, there aren't any reasons. Every person with some sort of mind bought this system long ago and all those Spin-Offs don't get anybody buying this system now. 

Maybe not a 3DS. But a NEW 3DS might do the trick XD

That's what I said before, the 3DS is reaching a consumer limit, but the system won't go from 80-100k weekly to less than 50k in the spam of a year, unless something changes the market and makes people ignore the 3DS.



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Nem said:
Wether they are done or not we don't know because typically Nintendo doesnt announce games until they are less than a year from release.

They are of course some exceptions, like Xenoblade X and Zelda U.



                
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Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:

Maybe you can answer me that question then: What's the point of buying a 3DS in 2016? Any reasons for doing that?

No, there aren't any reasons. Every person with some sort of mind bought this system long ago and all those Spin-Offs don't get anybody buying this system now. 

Maybe not a 3DS. But a NEW 3DS might do the trick XD

That's what I said before, the 3DS is reaching a consumer limit, but the system won't go from 80-100k weekly to less than 50k in the spam of a year, unless something changes the market and makes people ignore the 3DS.

Yeah, but the system already had 2 new LoZ titles, 2 remakes, Smash, Kart, Animal Crossing, multiple Pokemon (new and remake), a number of Mario games, Animal Crossing New Leaf and HHD, Star Fox 64 3DS... There is literally nowhere else to take the system (for Nintendo).



reggin_bolas said:
How can you say you're happy with the console? It costs as much as an XB1 in some countries and has virtually no third party support/smallest library in console history? How can you defend that value-proposition?


Third party or not, there are lots of great great games on the console. Quantity isnt there, but as far as great games  it has more great games in their library than the competition because of their very strong first party titles. But in the long run, that isnt going to seal the deal, first party titles are going to dry up and the life cycle will be short as we are seeing with the Wii U. With that said, I am to happy with the console because it has justified the needs I have had (still havnt had the time to play every game I want to play). Do I want more games and a lot better third party support for the NX? Absolutely. Not necessarily for me, but to get more users to buy the NX.



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Mbolibombo said:
reggin_bolas said:
How can you say you're happy with the console? It costs as much as an XB1 in some countries and has virtually no third party support/smallest library in console history? How can you defend that value-proposition?


Third party or not, there are lots of great great games on the console. Quantity isnt there, but as far as great games  it has more great games in their library than the competition because of their very strong first party titles. But in the long run, that isnt going to seal the deal, first party titles are going to dry up and the life cycle will be short as we are seeing with the Wii U. With that said, I am to happy with the console because it has justified the needs I have had (still havnt had the time to play every game I want to play). Do I want more games and a lot better third party support for the NX? Absolutely. Not necessarily for me, but to get more users to buy the NX.

Yeah, I got around 40 games, and still have some on my to get list. 

*Edit* and don't even get me started on my 3DS collection, lol.



Gamemaster87 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


What would be dumb is still trying to make games for two seperate systems. Nintendo's recent game output supports this, seeing as only the 3DS is getting any real effort.

So, according to you it would be smart to shorten your own profit and to minimalize your company size? Never read such a huge amount of nonsense. Every company tries to expand and not to get smaller and smaller. This fusion thing is definitely not happening. You will remember my words next year ;)

 

Was gonna give a more indepth response but Mummelman did that already. <3

Also, assuming they go with the 2 different systems same games route, then nothings changed in terms of their output. Still two pieces of hardware, and still the same amount of games that they'd make overall, but each system gets all of them now. That's good for both Nintendo and the consumer.

 

 



bigtakilla said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:

Maybe you can answer me that question then: What's the point of buying a 3DS in 2016? Any reasons for doing that?

No, there aren't any reasons. Every person with some sort of mind bought this system long ago and all those Spin-Offs don't get anybody buying this system now. 

Maybe not a 3DS. But a NEW 3DS might do the trick XD

That's what I said before, the 3DS is reaching a consumer limit, but the system won't go from 80-100k weekly to less than 50k in the spam of a year, unless something changes the market and makes people ignore the 3DS.

Yeah, but the system already had 2 new LoZ titles, 2 remakes, Smash, Kart, Animal Crossing, multiple Pokemon (new and remake), a number of Mario games, Animal Crossing New Leaf and HHD, Star Fox 64 3DS... There is literally nowhere else to take the system (for Nintendo).

Convince all 3rd parties to localize unreleased japanese 3rd party titles to the west! How many titles will be Japan only by the time the 3DS gets discontinued? There's no better time to get companies to localize the games, the installbase its the biggest it's going to be, and the system isn't overshadowed by a successor.

-Youkai Watch 2 and 3

-Monster Hunter X (it will arrive as Ultimate Edition or something, at least if Capcom doesn't move it to NX for the western release)

-Dragon Quest Monsters (if VII and VIII do well)

-Taiko no Tatsujin

-Digimon World Re:Digitize Decode

-Medabots

 

Also, Nintendo could bring a new 2D Metroid to the 3DS, but at this point, better save it for the NX.



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Darwinianevolution said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, but the system already had 2 new LoZ titles, 2 remakes, Smash, Kart, Animal Crossing, multiple Pokemon (new and remake), a number of Mario games, Animal Crossing New Leaf and HHD, Star Fox 64 3DS... There is literally nowhere else to take the system (for Nintendo).

Convince all 3rd parties to localize unreleased japanese 3rd party titles to the west! How many titles will be Japan only by the time the 3DS gets discontinued? There's no better time to get companies to localize the games, the installbase its the biggest it's going to be, and the system isn't overshadowed by a successor.

-Youkai Watch 2 and 3

-Monster Hunter X (it will arrive as Ultimate Edition or something, at least if Capcom doesn't move it to NX for the western release)

-Dragon Quest Monsters (if VII and VIII do well)

-Taiko no Tatsujin

-Digimon World Re:Digitize Decode

-Medabots

 

Also, Nintendo could bring a new 2D Metroid to the 3DS, but at this point, better save it for the NX.

None of the games mentioned are Nintendo. They could still release those games for 3ds and be fine, even with a successor out. I'm also not entirely sure (outside Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest) how big of a splash those titles would create outside Japan.



bigtakilla said:
Nem said:
Wether they are done or not we don't know because typically Nintendo doesnt announce games until they are less than a year from release.

Agreed. If they show off the other 3 or 4 games they are working on for 2016, then they would literally have nothing to show off for E3/Directs/whatever next year that is releasing next year. Nintendo isn't going to show off all their cards for next year this year.



The problem with this is that next year is NX year. For them to reveal the NX, but then later announce Mario Galaxy 3 or whatever for Wii U would make no sense.