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97alexk said:

No offense, but that didnt make any sense to me. Having a console with different games all on one consoles is much better for the wallet

It didn't make sense because you didn't see much right with it, your last line just confirmed that for me.

Again I disagree and find IP/studio snatching to work against my wallet.



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Chazore said:
97alexk said:
 

No offense, but that didnt make any sense to me. Having a console with different games all on one consoles is much better for the wallet

It didn't make sense because you didn't see much right with it, your last line just confirmed that for me.

Again I disagree and find IP/studio snatching to work against my wallet.

But how? can you explain to me, how your wallet hurts by it more than if they would only be on one console? im kinda curious actually :)



97alexk said:

But how? can you explain to me, how your wallet hurts by it more than if they would only be on one console? im kinda curious actually :)

Why are you curious?, you don't sound it tbh.

Are you trying to say you are factually right or something about all of this?, why didn't you say so when you entered the thread?.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

First I would say to secure the companies that largely or exclusively work for them on strong titles. We don't need another Rare or Hudson Soft situation. After that, revive the first party studio Project Sora, and put Sakurai in charge. The latter is more important than anything because I think at this point Sakurai is technically not a first party developer



Honestly no one because they wouldn't know what to do with them. They are so unorganised and it be more work for them to manage.


But if they get their shit together RARE, not for the people but the franchises. Nintendo could restore their franchises to former glory or they could star fox them I guess.



 

 

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Chazore said:
97alexk said:

But how? can you explain to me, how your wallet hurts by it more than if they would only be on one console? im kinda curious actually :)

Why are you curious?, you don't sound it tbh.

Are you trying to say you are factually right or something about all of this?, why didn't you say so when you entered the thread?.

no im actually curious xD ehm, so how come?



97alexk said:

no im actually curious xD ehm, so how come?


Well for one having them be multiplatform means more can play the game, for another it means I save money on my own wallet by buying said games on my platform of choice, by snatching said IP's nad making them exclusive to a console means holding them hostage vs letting them go to other platforms, especially IP's that are already multiplatform. This is also why some Japanese devs are starting to see that they can also make money on PC than staying exclusive to a single system or two, it ebenfits me and benefits them since I can get said games on my system of choice like others can and they get more money.

The other thing is that this gen I really don't see much of a reason to buy a current gen system besides a WIi U, that itself is a subjective matter so you can't really tell me I'm missing out on something I wasn't interested in, I am however interested in IP's that are becming multiplatform and new IP's that aim to be that way, buyign up studios/devs to make IP's exclusive to sell a system isn't really going to benefit me at all, it would benefit those that bought the IP or studio though but at the end of the day I;m supposed to benefit for actually buying the game but I can't when I lose out to having to buy multiple systems that I don't have much of an interest in, this is why I prefer games being as multiplat as possible.

I just don't agree or see it being logical in buying and snatching up studios to sell a console when they can also make money on both consoles, PC's, handhelds etc. I just don't see it being natural or right to do such a thing because it in no way benefits me, I don't get how someone eneds to benefit from me not being trated the same, it seems almost warped to me for people to demand others get less games or treatment.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

They should do both, create new studios and acquire others. I think is more important that they expand their studios on both the USA and Europe, by whatever means necessary, while letting said studios have more freedom and make games that appeal to their respective territories.

I also want to point out that many great first-party studios, we take for granted today, where once an acquisition. That includes today's most acclaimed first-party studio, and huge benefits are being reaped thanks to them. So, yeah, there's a lot to be won from acquiring established studios.



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Chazore said:
97alexk said:
 

no im actually curious xD ehm, so how come?


Well for one having them be multiplatform means more can play the game, for another it means I save money on my own wallet by buying said games on my platform of choice, by snatching said IP's nad making them exclusive to a console means holding them hostage vs letting them go to other platforms, especially IP's that are already multiplatform. This is also why some Japanese devs are starting to see that they can also make money on PC than staying exclusive to a single system or two, it ebenfits me and benefits them since I can get said games on my system of choice like others can and they get more money.

The other thing is that this gen I really don't see much of a reason to buy a current gen system besides a WIi U, that itself is a subjective matter so you can't really tell me I'm missing out on something I wasn't interested in, I am however interested in IP's that are becming multiplatform and new IP's that aim to be that way, buyign up studios/devs to make IP's exclusive to sell a system isn't really going to benefit me at all, it would benefit those that bought the IP or studio though but at the end of the day I;m supposed to benefit for actually buying the game but I can't when I lose out to having to buy multiple systems that I don't have much of an interest in, this is why I prefer games being as multiplat as possible.

I just don't agree or see it being logical in buying and snatching up studios to sell a console when they can also make money on both consoles, PC's, handhelds etc. I just don't see it being natural or right to do such a thing because it in no way benefits me, I don't get how someone eneds to benefit from me not being trated the same, it seems almost warped to me for people to demand others get less games or treatment.

wait what. thats kinda contradicting. hmm but i agree that less people maybe would be able to buy it, but for the consumer its mostly better, because lets say, you really like Mega Man games, but Capcom hasnt done a good megaman game in a long time. If nintendo would buy it, they would probably revive that franchise to its former glory. Wich would please alot of mega man fans. Capcom doesnt seem to make a new mega man for some reason. So maybe in this case, Nintendo buying the Mega Man Ip would be better, because they would revive it, and mega man fans who mostly played Mega Man on Nintendo consoles can play mega man games on the same system as mario, or legend of zelda. Being multiplat is also good, but then it really needs to be multiplat for it being good. Like alot of third party support isnt on Wii U, and thats partially Nintendo's fault, but it doesnt really benefit the consumer who only has a Wii U, and doesnt want to buy another system. With having some exclusive IP bought its guaranteed they will come to that console. So Nintendo for example doesnt have to do that well with third parties to get that specific game on their console , because they bought it and stuff. Nintendo is really good in making the most of their Ip's, and even better now that they will with theme parks. OFC this case doesnt have to be with only Nintendo. The same example can be implemented into Playstation



97alexk said:
 

 Like alot of third party support isnt on Wii U, and thats partially Nintendo's fault, but it doesnt really benefit the consumer who only has a Wii U, and doesnt want to buy another system. With having some exclusive IP bought its guaranteed they will come to that console. So Nintendo for example doesnt have to do that well with third parties to get that specific game on their console , because they bought it and stuff. Nintendo is really good in making the most of their Ip's, and even better now that they will with theme parks. OFC this case doesnt have to be with only Nintendo. The same example can be implemented into Playstation


The problem with that is buying those iP's for their system only doesn't benefit me at all, like I said I prefer most if not all games being multiplat. I've seen many franchises go from exclusive to multiplat and being better off for it both profit and audience wise, it's also clear that quality is a subjective case that shouldn't outfactor the other two(especially since F4 is enjoyed by fans and is selling a lot despite it's visual quality which in the end is subjective anyway).

The thing is that money can only go so far and of course snatching said IP's from other audiences clearly does leave a lasting impression both good and bad, the abd of course never gets forgotten and then you scorn that audience who would likely just give their money to someone else, if we were all objectively ok with playing musical chairs then only one system would remain in the industry at this point but it's clear we all aren't so our money does go elsewhere than to a system that snatches up IP's.

Also we haven't even seen the final result of Nintendo's theme park ideas let alone how they are going to work or gather crowds, Nintendo is good at making *some* IP's but not everything, the same goes for any 1st party creator, not everything is perfect and objectively good, again this harks back to quality being subjective.

In the end I will never find dumping £300+ on one system after another as being good for my wallet, I'd rather play the games I want on my rig and pay the prices for those games than £300+ and then the game prices on top, especially when I;m not invested in said systems.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.