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Forums - Sales Discussion - October 2015 NPD Thread! Everything is in the OP!

Protendo said:

Wow...just wow. That actually explains why Halo (software) failed as well.  None of the boosts shown a strong Halo relationship. Deriving data isn't hard jlmurph2. You are on the deep end.

If you want to attack me about my bad use of the English language, since it's my second language next...be my guest. Just like your attacking the numerous other members.

Both of you need to drop it, now.



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BTW was there any word on who sold most software?

On a side note, these numbers should mean around 500k X1s and 900k PS4s (October worldwide). Roughly.



Roronaa_chan said:
BTW was there any word on who sold most software?

I think the PS4 did because of the the top games had the PS4 in front.



Tachikoma said:
Abun said:

This post is extremely hypocritcal and shows moderation bias.People from all sides do the same thing,but you single him out? I have never seen a mod on any forum do something like this.This should not be allowed.The mods on this site are a huge joke.

SWORDF1SH said:

That sentence isn't fair. I see just as much baiting and trolling from the XB camp. Atually some seem to get away with too much. Don't just single him out like this because it's fucked up.

mornelithe said:

and while I'm a big fan of Tachi, I've had similar concerns with other users/mods. 

The user in question has a long history of inciting and contrbituing towards console vs console trolling, baiting and flaming, i'm not saying fans of the xbox are innocent, i'm not saying any particular fanbase is innocent or guilty, just that for a long time now people have been openly passing along snide remarks particularly towards the Xbox One, in most cases these remarks are dealt with, but at the same time the xbox community of this site is significantly smaller than the playstation and nintendo communities, thus what happens is a heavy bias in the frequency of reported posts, a frequency that favors the playstation and nintendo fans.

In this particular instance, the user has a combination of an extensive history causing trouble based on nothing more than the platform being different, and a documented propencity for pre-meditation of particular attacks and approaches both on site and off.

As such he is now banned from referencing the xbox, he isn't banned from posting or joining in with discussions for other consoles but until he has shown a believable, genuine willingness to curb his attitude and approach towards topics involving the Xbox, he will not be permitted to be involved in Xbox discussions.

As for "singling out", that is generally what happens when the content of a users post lands them in trouble, moderations are handled on a person to person basis, so singling out a particular user for their behaviour is the entire point of modering a particular user.

Simply saying "hey people, could you please stop attacking each other" has been tried in the past, and it gets completely and utterly ignored, which is why this approach is being taken as a last ditch attempt.

If he changes his attitude and shows signs of improvement, then the ban on xbox topics will be lifted, if he does not then the ban stays, it's as simple as that. You may find it harsh, but for someone with 34 infractions for trolling and flaming, it's clear the usual moderation approach just isn't getting through, so I'm hoping this approach will.

You can call that bias, you can call it hypocritical, you can call it whatever you want, however, Abun, saying "The mods on this site are a huge joke" based on a single moderators actions is uncalled for.

On a personal note, if anyone would like to try and imply that i'm biased towards the Xbox One, i've got some news for you..


Agree with you on everything Tachi, and claiming you a Xbox fanatic is utter ridiculous.

I just hope that some other trolls that have been doing even worse are taken care in similar fashion. And the worst part is that some of them are reported and dismissed because of the "Xbox fanbase is smaller so let's give them a leeway". I have saw several worse posts than the collection of ethomaz get unmoderated, so the guy would have smaller moderation historic, but far more toxic behavior. I won't say it's personal or even collective bias of the mods, but seems like that to keep having a Xbox community the Sony fans are modderated more harshily when the situation don't quite need it and Xbox fan get a free pass when the situation asked for some action.

Otherwise the mods have been doing great and these cases don't really impact in the enjoyment of the site.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Tough win for the Xbox, barely scrapping by during Halo month.



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DonFerrari said:

I just hope that some other trolls that have been doing even worse are taken care in similar fashion. 

I'll be talking to the head mod later today about exactly that.



Blood_Tears said:
Tough win for the Xbox, barely scrapping by during Halo month.

October was a disaster for everyone :(

300k X1 is hugely disappointing with their #1 exclusive IP's first new game on the platform

275k PS4 is hugely disappointing with their 1st real price cut to $349 (and decent bundles)

less than 1M Halo 5 NPD is hugely disapppointing and represents a staggering falloff from previous entries, even if you have ludicrous expectations for digital sales

And we know that mobile (de facto 3ds) contracted YoY, and that WiiU didn't zombie itself back to any real sign of life, so Nintendo also had a bad month

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All in all, the worst NPD result I could think of. EVERYbody lost. Let's hope for better numbers for everyone for Nov/Dec.



Tachikoma said:

The user in question has a long history of inciting and contrbituing towards console vs console trolling, baiting and flaming, i'm not saying fans of the xbox are innocent, i'm not saying any particular fanbase is innocent or guilty, just that for a long time now people have been openly passing along snide remarks particularly towards the Xbox One, in most cases these remarks are dealt with, but at the same time the xbox community of this site is significantly smaller than the playstation and nintendo communities, thus what happens is a heavy bias in the frequency of reported posts, a frequency that favors the playstation and nintendo fans.

In this particular instance, the user has a combination of an extensive history causing trouble based on nothing more than the platform being different, and a documented propencity for pre-meditation of particular attacks and approaches both on site and off.

As such he is now banned from referencing the xbox, he isn't banned from posting or joining in with discussions for other consoles but until he has shown a believable, genuine willingness to curb his attitude and approach towards topics involving the Xbox, he will not be permitted to be involved in Xbox discussions.

As for "singling out", that is generally what happens when the content of a users post lands them in trouble, moderations are handled on a person to person basis, so singling out a particular user for their behaviour is the entire point of modering a particular user.

Simply saying "hey people, could you please stop attacking each other" has been tried in the past, and it gets completely and utterly ignored, which is why this approach is being taken as a last ditch attempt.

If he changes his attitude and shows signs of improvement, then the ban on xbox topics will be lifted, if he does not then the ban stays, it's as simple as that. You may find it harsh, but for someone with 34 infractions for trolling and flaming, it's clear the usual moderation approach just isn't getting through, so I'm hoping this approach will.

You can call that bias, you can call it hypocritical, you can call it whatever you want, however, Abun, saying "The mods on this site are a huge joke" based on a single moderators actions is uncalled for.

On a personal note, if anyone would like to try and imply that i'm biased towards the Xbox One, i've got some news for you..

I think he deserved the action you took but I also think it was mishandled. Should of it been handled like this in the thread? Most moderation messgaes are sent to the person breaking the rule, not out in the open.

I don't agree with Abun either but singling out one side (in this case the PS fan) like it's only them that causes trouble along with calling people out openly in threads undoes the good moderating on here. I'm not saying you're a bad mod, but you went to far this time.



Now, its obvious PS4 will win npd novembre so holidays sales



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

SWORDF1SH said:
Tachikoma said:

The user in question has a long history of inciting and contrbituing towards console vs console trolling, baiting and flaming, i'm not saying fans of the xbox are innocent, i'm not saying any particular fanbase is innocent or guilty, just that for a long time now people have been openly passing along snide remarks particularly towards the Xbox One, in most cases these remarks are dealt with, but at the same time the xbox community of this site is significantly smaller than the playstation and nintendo communities, thus what happens is a heavy bias in the frequency of reported posts, a frequency that favors the playstation and nintendo fans.

In this particular instance, the user has a combination of an extensive history causing trouble based on nothing more than the platform being different, and a documented propencity for pre-meditation of particular attacks and approaches both on site and off.

As such he is now banned from referencing the xbox, he isn't banned from posting or joining in with discussions for other consoles but until he has shown a believable, genuine willingness to curb his attitude and approach towards topics involving the Xbox, he will not be permitted to be involved in Xbox discussions.

As for "singling out", that is generally what happens when the content of a users post lands them in trouble, moderations are handled on a person to person basis, so singling out a particular user for their behaviour is the entire point of modering a particular user.

Simply saying "hey people, could you please stop attacking each other" has been tried in the past, and it gets completely and utterly ignored, which is why this approach is being taken as a last ditch attempt.

If he changes his attitude and shows signs of improvement, then the ban on xbox topics will be lifted, if he does not then the ban stays, it's as simple as that. You may find it harsh, but for someone with 34 infractions for trolling and flaming, it's clear the usual moderation approach just isn't getting through, so I'm hoping this approach will.

You can call that bias, you can call it hypocritical, you can call it whatever you want, however, Abun, saying "The mods on this site are a huge joke" based on a single moderators actions is uncalled for.

On a personal note, if anyone would like to try and imply that i'm biased towards the Xbox One, i've got some news for you..

I think he deserved the action you took but I also think it was mishandled. Should of it been handled like this in the thread? Most moderation messgaes are sent to the person breaking the rule, not out in the open.

I don't agree with Abun either but singling out one side (in this case the PS fan) like it's only them that causes trouble along with calling people out openly in threads undoes the good moderating on here. I'm not saying you're a bad mod, but you went to far this time.

It was a little different than usual. But I believe Tachi done out of the ordinary to make it stand as an example so others see that if they keep the bashing the will have the same destiny



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."