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A deayed game is eventually good. A rushed game is bad forever.

Ocarina of Time was massively delayed, as was Starcraft and Half Life 2.
Delays are underrated.



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Nintendo has gone crazy with delays, showing how they are severely mismanaging stuff left and right.

the "a delayed game is eventually good. A rushed game is bad forever" argument is also flawed.

Nintendo has only themselves to blame for putting themselves in a state to delay a game. No one told them to announce things early, and yet they do so to produce hype for a console, only to kill the hype by producing delays.

They could have gone the Bethesda route and announced a game when it was close to completion (fallout 4), instead of announcing a game early in development and placing a deadline

-Zelda U: delayed and TBD
-Starfox: delayed to next year
-first mobile game: delayed to next year
-project gaurd: delayed to supposedly later this year
-project robot: delayed to sometime next year
-Yoshi's woolly world: delayed in certain areas
-Captain toad's treasure tracker: delayed in certain areas
-kirby's canvas curse: delayed in certain areas
-Donkey kong country Tropical freeze: was delayed for a couple of months
-Wonderful 101: was delayed for almost a year
-Pikmin 3: was delayed for almost a year
-wii fit U: was delayed for almost a year
-wii sports HD: was delayed for almost a year
-Amiibo: massive shortages for a huge amount of time



padib said:
midrange said:
Nintendo has gone crazy with delays, showing how they are severely mismanaging stuff left and right.

the "a delayed game is eventually good. A rushed game is bad forever" argument is also flawed.

Nintendo has only themselves to blame for putting themselves in a state to delay a game. No one told them to announce things early, and yet they do so to produce hype for a console, only to kill the hype by producing delays.

They could have gone the Bethesda route and announced a game when it was close to completion (fallout 4), instead of announcing a game early in development and placing a deadline

-Zelda U: delayed and TBD
-Starfox: delayed to next year
-first mobile game: delayed to next year
-project gaurd: delayed to supposedly later this year
-project robot: delayed to sometime next year
-Yoshi's woolly world: delayed in certain areas
-Captain toad's treasure tracker: delayed in certain areas
-kirby's canvas curse: delayed in certain areas
-Donkey kong country Tropical freeze: was delayed for a couple of months
-Wonderful 101: was delayed for almost a year
-Pikmin 3: was delayed for almost a year
-wii fit U: was delayed for almost a year
-wii sports HD: was delayed for almost a year
-Amiibo: massive shortages for a huge amount of time

Nintendo's problem, as has been stated repeatedly ITT, is the lack of games, not the delays. 

Because of said lack of games, Nintendo was forced to make promises early. This is not their typical behavior.

I don't care how they fix it, but they need to fix it.

The customer is not at fault for Nintendo announcing early and delaying games. If they feel pressured to announce games early, then they should have really been pushing for third party support. 

This has been their behavior thus far this entire generation, I listed delayed launch games up to delayed games that come out next year. So to claim "this is not their typical behavior" is kinda false in my opinion



padib said:
midrange said:

I don't care how they fix it, but they need to fix it.

The customer is not at fault for Nintendo announcing early and delaying games. If they feel pressured to announce games early, then they should have really been pushing for third party support. 

This has been their behavior thus far this entire generation, I listed delayed launch games up to delayed games that come out next year. So to claim "this is not their typical behavior" is kinda false in my opinion

Nintendo exists far beyond this generation, which began 3 years ago... They are not known for their delays so don't pretend like they are.

Also, there have been delays in the past at times, especially with big games like Zelda, or with other companies with The Last Guardian, it happens and usually it is not such a big deal especially if it makes the game better and the delay is a few months or at most a year long.

Again, the problem here is not the delay, delays never were a big deal and never should be. The problem is that they are seeming like a big problem due to the ACTUAL problem: the lack of games.

And I know you want them to fix said lack of games, so do I.

This began 3 years ago, and has continued for a large portion of this gen. Of course I am gonna use the most recent information when making a conclusion.

Nintendo had great third party support during the n64 and early wii days. Am I gonna say that now just because they did it in previous gens? No, because times change, and Nintendo has to yet to adapt.

They delayed most of their games early on because of the switch to HD. That should not have been a problem, they should have been able to adapt and enter HD prepared. I'm not gonna give them a pass when it was their fault for not being ready.

These delays are a problem, as are the lack of games. Solving the lack of games issue will not change the fact that them CONSTANTLY delaying games is an issue. They need better time management within the company or they need to expand, or they need to outsource. Basically something needs to happen because as shown by the delay of the mobile game, people are fed up with this.



padib said:
illdill1987 said:

First of all I just want to let everyone know I am a nintendo fan. I have been a loyal fan since the 80s. Ive never owned a console that wasn't Nintendo. But when you say Nintendo is doing all these new things and thats why they cant release anything. In my opinion is not a good argument. They shouldnt have taken on all these projects if they couldnt complete them in a timely manner. And leaving people like me who only play Nintendo waiting for games.... Its bad for business and they might lose loyal fans like me who have been with them since the 80s.

This mobile game wasn't announced for people like you, and was mostly announced to investors. A delay in this mobile game has little to do with you.

As for the other games, Nintendo rarely delays its games. Zelda U is new for them, they never made an open-world game before. Star Fox is an exception. What else is bothering you? I don't remember a delay on Whooly World but was is so bad?

Like I said before, the big problem here aren't the delays. The big problem is the lack of titles on the U. That will be solved with the NX, we know that.

What?!

The entire launch-window lineup was delayed. Why do you think people is upset? Because it is Nintendo? No, because this gen is mistake after mistake with them. From games delayed to projects nobody asked for. And a mobile game can be played by us too. Are those exclusive solely to a different race or planet? No. It's can be for us too.



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padib said:
Pavolink said:

What?!

The entire launch-window lineup was delayed. Why do you think people is upset? Because it is Nintendo? No, because this gen is mistake after mistake with them. From games delayed to projects nobody asked for. And a mobile game can be played by us too. Are those exclusive solely to a different race or planet? No. It's can be for us too.

As far as I remember the launch lineup was on schedule. Nintendo Land, New Super Mario Bros U were on schedule. The problem was that there weren't enough games.


Pikmin and TW101?



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Good. Mobile games should always come last in nintendo priority list.



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padib said:
Pavolink said:

Pikmin and TW101?

I didn't know those were announced as launch games. Really?


Launch window. Then they said 6 months or so, and finally launch window for Nintendo was almost a year.



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A lot of you guys don't seem to understand that many of these dates they announce are NOT deadlines. They are projections. Giving strict deadlines on something like entertainment will NOT make the game better by making developers work harder. It will just make the game incomplete in some way. It's NOT the same as other jobs, and I highly doubt that the delays are from incompetence or laziness. Just look at the general quality of Nintendo games to begin with.



LurkerJ said:
Puppyroach said:
Isn't the quality of the product most important?


It is. Delays commonly happen. The backlash is expected and justified each time a game is delayed. Asking others to not complain though? "Clutching at straws", "It's just 5 months", "delaying games doesn't mean they are incompetent", "This thread is nothing but a kneejerk reaction". I personally couldn't care less about the delay, but the OP is being demeaned to a baffling degree.

Announce a release window for an X game, delay it, get justified backlash. It's that simple.


I had no intentions to demean the OP when I made the comment about delaying games not meaning incompetence. I was just disagreeing with him.