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taomaster06 on 18 March 2008

No, look at RE4 for the GC, it took 6 years for a game to really push that system. the 360 has only been out 2 years, no one has pushed it to its limits yet.



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Chrizum on 18 March 2008

Oh, the stay on-topic, no the 360 hasn't been maxed out yet too. I don't think any Unreal 3 engine game can max out the 360, it needs a custom made engine to measure its real power.



arsenalrc15 on 18 March 2008

Do people not understand that the PS3 is not as powerful as the 360 in terms of graphics, shader structure, memory allocation and architecture, and utilization of processing power?

for info on PS3 vs Xbox 360 go to these links

http://www.hardcoreware.net/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-one-year-later/

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125087/index.html?type=tech

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html


The PS3's max will probably be KillZone 2 or MGS 4.

The Wii's max -- who the hell knows?

The 360's max -- GoW 2 will hold that title



arsenalrc15 on 18 March 2008
taomaster06 said:
No, look at RE4 for the GC, it took 6 years for a game to really push that system. the 360 has only been out 2 years, no one has pushed it to its limits yet.

Gamecube came out in 2001

 

Resident Evil 4 came out in 2004

That is a total of 3 years not 6



sc94597 on 18 March 2008
Chrizum said:
sc94597 said:
Username2324 said:
Nobody said, because nobody knows for sure, Nintendo won't say, and developers won't say because Nintendo won't let them.


Yet if it was being pushed to the max we would see drops in framerate and lag.Basically what we see in mass effect , but to a larger extent and not because the code wasn't efficient, but because it was being pushed to the limits. Developers can't say ,because they don't know , because the game was made by nintendo.


I wouldn't say a game can only be pushed to it's limits when there's framerate problems. Hypothetically, when a game gets released that looks a tad better than Galaxy, but has framerate problems, I would say Galaxy is graphically the better game, thus pushing the Wii farther than the other, prettier game with performance problems.

Technically, I'd say Metroid Prime 3 is a better looking game than Galaxy, but I'm sure it's not the Wii's limit. We will probably see the limit of the Wii when the next big Zelda game is released, or when Factor 5 makes a game like the Rogue Squadron games on the GameCube.


 I'm trying to say thought that you would see the framerate dropping if mario galaxy pushed the wii. I'm not trying to say that a game that has  a framerate dropping is better graphically. I also agree that MP3 has the best wii graphics so far. That game just looks amazing so does galaxy , but mp3 just was so much more detailed imo. It also perfected the realistic look with it's environments being colorful opposed to grey. That game wowed me so much visually. 



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plzdontbanme on 18 March 2008
arsenalrc15 said:
Do people not understand that the PS3 is not as powerful as the 360 in terms of graphics, shader structure, memory allocation and architecture, and utilization of processing power?

for info on PS3 vs Xbox 360 go to these links

http://www.hardcoreware.net/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-one-year-later/

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125087/index.html?type=tech

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html


The PS3's max will probably be KillZone 2 or MGS 4.

The Wii's max -- who the hell knows?

The 360's max -- GoW 2 will hold that title


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Username2324 on 18 March 2008
arsenalrc15 said:
Do people not understand that the PS3 is not as powerful as the 360 in terms of graphics, shader structure, memory allocation and architecture, and utilization of processing power?

for info on PS3 vs Xbox 360 go to these links

http://www.hardcoreware.net/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-one-year-later/

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125087/index.html?type=tech

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html


The PS3's max will probably be KillZone 2 or MGS 4.

The Wii's max -- who the hell knows?

The 360's max -- GoW 2 will hold that title

So we can figure out the more complex consoles limits right way, but for the consoles essentially the same as there brethern just more powerful, we will never know? Interesting....

 



Strategyking92 on 18 March 2008

It came out in 2005........ a little trollsome.....



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Username2324 on 18 March 2008

@sc

You cannot say the best looking game for Wii would have to have framerate and performance issues. Hell, if you wanted to go that way you'd have to drop games down to 1fps.

By "reaching its limits" we mean reaching it's maximum of visuals and performance at the same time. So that's the choice the developers have to make, do they want the shiny fancy look with a frame rate problem here and there, or do they want impressingly smooth game play that could look a bit better but only by sacrificing performance.

But like I said, Nintendo doesn't want us to know, and they probably have some kind of grip on developers to keep it secret or we would have seen some official specs on the console by now.



arsenalrc15 on 18 March 2008

ok sorry it came out in January of 2005

Gamecube came out in November 2001.

Thats 3 years and 2 months a big difference from 6 years.