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spemanig said:
hershel_layton said:


Sometimes race does matter. It'd suck if a movie used white people to mock Native Americans.

 

I do agree overall though. I just want good actors.

 

However, if the character is meant to be LGBT, black, Native, etc etc., I want the correct people to be casted.

 


That's poor type casting, though. That has nothing to do with writing. I don't see why a LGBT character can't be acted by a straight person, though.

Ok, maybe sexuality isn't the bigger issue.

 

however, race does. I don't want white people doing black face just to play a role that a black person could have done better.

 

Pan is a great example. I don't want my movie to be filled with crackers for the whole time. Sometimes diversity helps the movie.

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Yes. But personally, I think females require a different role. At least until 2035 hits when all people are 100% equal and everyone's getting fucked rather than just white skinned people in the US lol



Wright said:

Definitively. Now I hope they start including transgender characters from now on.


Whats with you and trannies? lol



spemanig said:
hershel_layton said:


Sometimes race does matter. It'd suck if a movie used white people to mock Native Americans.

 

I do agree overall though. I just want good actors.

 

However, if the character is meant to be LGBT, black, Native, etc etc., I want the correct people to be casted.

 


That's poor type casting, though. That has nothing to do with writing. I don't see why a LGBT character can't be acted by a straight person, though.


How? How is that poor type casting, I ask you. A straight person would have no idea what its really like to be gay and I don't think a gay person would have a firm grasp on what its like to be straight. From what I read, you know from a very young age which way you slant and that relationship status becomes a significant part of who you are. With that being said, you're relying on the writer but how can a person put themselves in those shoes? You're asking blue to imagine it's red. 



Mystro-Sama said:
Wright said:

Definitively. Now I hope they start including transgender characters from now on.


Whats with you and trannies? lol


You should have said, why more people don't like transgenders?



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hershel_layton said:

Ok, maybe sexuality isn't the bigger issue.

 

however, race does. I don't want white people doing black face just to play a role that a black person could have done better.

 

Pan is a great example. I don't want my movie to be filled with crackers for the whole time. Sometimes diversity helps the movie.


And again, that's not an issue of writing, that's an issue of casting. It's a completely separate issue.



aLkaLiNE said:
spemanig said:


That's poor type casting, though. That has nothing to do with writing. I don't see why a LGBT character can't be acted by a straight person, though.


How? How is that poor type casting, I ask you.

A straight person would have no idea what its really like to be gay and I don't think a gay person would have a firm grasp on what its like to be straight. From what I read, you know from a very young age which way you slant and that relationship status becomes a significant part of who you are. With that being said, you're relying on the writer but how can a person put themselves in those shoes? You're asking blue to imagine it's red. 


I don't understand what you're getting at. Casting someones race incorrectly is clearly bad type casting. If someone white plays a black character, and they are addressed as being black throughout the script and in the dialog, that's poor type casting. If someone asian plays a jew, that's poor type casting.

That's why it's called acting. It's not an actors job to empithize with their character. It's an actors job to pretend professionally. Actors pretend to be murderers, phychopaths, downtrodden, etc all the time. It's their job. If a straight person can play a gay person convincingly, or if a gay person can play a straight person convincingly, it doesn't matter what their sexual orientation really is. It's an actors job to pretend. If an actor can't fake being gay, they're a shitty actor.

That isn't a type casting issue at all. You can't see gay, you can only be gay. You can see race, though, which is why casting race incorrectly is a completely different matter for casting sexual orientation incorrectly.



hershel_layton said:
spemanig said:


That's poor type casting, though. That has nothing to do with writing. I don't see why a LGBT character can't be acted by a straight person, though.

Ok, maybe sexuality isn't the bigger issue.

 

however, race does. I don't want white people doing black face just to play a role that a black person could have done better.

 

Pan is a great example. I don't want my movie to be filled with crackers for the whole time. Sometimes diversity helps the movie.


Really?



honestly as long as there is no prejudice going on in terms of hiring people then it should be irrelevant if the percentages of male/female, black/white, whatever are even in film

in the end the best person for the role should get hired

if 10 super hero movies come out that all are based on iconic male superheroes then it would extremely trivial and stupid to change all of the leads to females simply to make sure that there was an equilibrium of male and females in starring roles

when you reach the point that politically correct 'fair' desires are damaging how roles are written and not necessarily giving the job to the best person suited for it then that's a problem

I like seeing movies with chicks as the lead and I like seeing movies with all sorts of races but almost worse than having NO diversity is having TOO much diversity for the simple fact that it becomes very apparent and distracting in entertainment

no one should be watching a film and notice that there is a room full of people with 1 white, 1 black, 1 Japanese, 1 Mexica, etc. etc. etc. just to fill a quota. that's when things have gone too far. same applies in terms of male/female casting. in the end if the role is suitable or the story fits or that's what people want to see then, great, but simply doing something to be 'fair' in a competitive business is absurd



Tv has been pretty balanced for awhile. Perhaps it'll be even when movies look similar. Ive not watch many recent movies so its hard for me to say... Many of the ones i have watched recently are either super hero movies, asian movies or chick flicks.