Fair enough, but i take everything into consideration. Hardware is very weak, it's a rip off just on that, they both have good games, so that's irrelevant.

Pikmin 3 you can play solely with wii remote+nunchuk or wii u pro controller, but i don't know if it's something that you unlock after beating the game

Kirby support various other controllers for local multiplayer. Same holds true for 3D World, although some levels can be played without the GamePad, several levels require the GamePad. Pikmin 3 also requires the GamePad, despite the fact that you can use other controllers to play the game. I for example played it with a Wii Remote Plus and Nunchuck, but the GamePad was also required occasionally.

I don't disagree on the fact that there are plenty of games that can be played without the GamePad, but since you can't access the full Wii U library without a GamePad, I doubt Nintendo is going to include half-arsed backwards compatibility, where some games are playable and some aren't. It's not really Nintendo's way of doing that. It's everything or nothing usually.

No, you cannot. Other controls are supported, but the Wii U GamePad must be turned on and in range of the Wii U, as it is required to play the game. If someone takes the GamePad away during playing, the game will interupt and say that it has lost connectivity with the GamePad. It's not like DKC Tropical Freeze, where I can literally leave the GamePad turned off and play the game without any problem (although you need the GamePad to select the Pro Controller option I believe).

You can buy one, but at this point you have more than fair warning that a new Nintendo system is not only coming but could be imminent.

So if you're going to be back here on this board complaining a year from now that you bought a Wii U and feel you didn't get your money's worth ... that's 100% on you.

Eh. Honestly, there isn't much worse it could be than what we're getting. It looks pretty bad.

She was right. It couldn't work in this day and age. She has the ultimate credibility. Even as a successor to SF64, it doesn't look good. It's not even doing a good job at being derivative. I don't understand how you can like SF64 and think Zero could possibly match up to it with what we've been shown. It doesn't even look like an evolution of that specific kind of on-rails gameplay - it looks like a convoluted downgrade.

No one knows if NX will flop like wii U. and also, is not very recomended to get a console in the launch.
Id say to get a wii U now, and sell your wii U and get a NX in its 2nd or 3rd year.

Wait. Don't buy the Wii U. It's way overpriced. I mean you can soon get an XB1 for the same price.

I can't recommend the Wii U to anyone.

What'a a "we you"? Some sociological or psychological theory? And why are you waiting for NOx? Can't you buy it from Volkswagen? They have excess stock of it. Do you use it for sex?