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haxxiy on 13 October 2015
episteme said:
haxxiy said:

As for the Cell, power isn't as much of an issue as getting the emulated SPEs to run simultaneously. One step off the line and the whole thing crashes. That and needing a lot of physical threads. Otherwise emulating PowerISA on x86 is a fairly known quantity, and the reason MS managed to do it.

No, the developers of a PS3 emulator said that even if they had an emulator that perfectly mimics a PS3, running commercial games at acceptable speeds would still be impossible due to the processing power of consumer grade CPUs.

I really doubt that is the case. The CBE isn't that different or more powerful than the Xenos except for the issue of having the emulated SPEs to work properly. It's what they call the SPU runtime system that causes the most significant issues(though my explanation before came from what I remembered reading a while ago so it might be a litte shit), for emulators try to reproduce how the system responds to sofware, not how it precisely works. Nobody really knows yet how powerful your PC will need to be to run it (it's even on their FAQ page). Insofar the hardware requirements in terms of x86 instruction sets are actually less than those being used on X360 emulation.

As for the specs that I mentioned before, for Wii-U and X360, those are more or less based on the few games who already do run on acceptable framerates on similar hardware.



 

 

 

 

 

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sc94597 on 13 October 2015
97alexk said:
sc94597 said:
97alexk said:
Scisca said:


Dophin is by far the ultimate way to play Xenoblade Chronicles. Emulators are great - when done right, they give extra value even if you own the console. I own the Wii, but decided to play XC on PC due to all the enhancements More options is always better!

No thank you! not only is the dolphin an inferior vercion (except only  having slightly noticable changes like textures, wich are actually not that impressive), but i bought xenoblade chronicles on the Wii U eshop so im atleast supporting the devs/monolith soft who made this masterpiece. I want more of this, further experience their games, and if everyone would just be emulating these games then no one would make them. Thank all the people who bought the first one that we are now getting an awsome second one. I wont be emulating Nintendo games as long as i live, i always bought most of their games, and it comes down to prioritising, if its a really bad game, or cheap game i guess its more understandable, but a game this size and so much effort put into it. I couldnt just emulate it and experience this awsome game but not give these guys credit. Things need to be fair

Inferior in what way? I get a stable 30fps while on my Wii XBC would drop to what I imagine is 23-25 fps, I play at 1080p with SSAA (no jaggies) with texture mods. I can play with whatever controller I wish to. By the way I pre-ordered the game, the iso I play with was ripped through my Wii, and I still have my copy in my collection, safe and sound from damage. So...

Wii U eshop does almost have no framefrate drops, and thats not the point i tried to make, I was trying to make a point of how supporting it is much better than cheaply emulating it.

And it is quite possible to both support the developer and use an emulator, as was the case with myself (I pre-ordered XBC and play my bought copy on PC.)



sc94597 on 13 October 2015
JRPGfan said:
sc94597 said:
97alexk said:

Inferior in what way? I get a stable 30fps while on my Wii XBC would drop to what I imagine is 23-25 fps, I play at 1080p with SSAA (no jaggies) with texture mods. I can play with whatever controller I wish to. By the way I pre-ordered the game, the iso I play with was ripped through my Wii, and I still have my copy in my collection, safe and sound from damage. So...


Basically the differnce is Night & day.

 

 

Wii:

 

Emu:

 

You ll have to open them up full size to really notice the differnces lol.

Wasnt nearly as drastic as I thought itd look after posting them.

 

the game does look better on emu though:

 

Here are some from my PC.



MegaDrive08 on 13 October 2015

Well you maybe playing Bayonetta 2 10 years from now lol Enjoy the wait ;)



 

Scisca on 13 October 2015
97alexk said:
Scisca said:


Dophin is by far the ultimate way to play Xenoblade Chronicles. Emulators are great - when done right, they give extra value even if you own the console. I own the Wii, but decided to play XC on PC due to all the enhancements More options is always better!

No thank you! not only is the dolphin an inferior vercion (except only  having slightly noticable changes like textures, wich are actually not that impressive), but i bought xenoblade chronicles on the Wii U eshop so im atleast supporting the devs/monolith soft who made this masterpiece. I want more of this, further experience their games, and if everyone would just be emulating these games then no one would make them. Thank all the people who bought the first one that we are now getting an awsome second one. I wont be emulating Nintendo games as long as i live, i always bought most of their games, and it comes down to prioritising, if its a really bad game, or cheap game i guess its more understandable, but a game this size and so much effort put into it. I couldnt just emulate it and experience this awsome game but not give these guys credit. Things need to be fair


I think you already know that the Wii/Wii U/3DS versions are far and away inferior when compared to Dolphin.

Also, I see no reason why emulating would be stopping anyone from buying the game. I own an Acekart for my DS, keep all games on it and still bought the games I considered worth getting. I own more original games for my hacked PS2 than pirated ones. You can buy the original game and still play it on Dolphin, where it's more enjoyable than on the original hardware.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 13 October 2015



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hinch on 13 October 2015

Blimey, that was quick.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 13 October 2015
walsufnir said:
Hynad said:


No. It doesn't. The 360 was Power PC based, and the XBO is x86. Basically, Microsoft and its partners retool the games to make them run on the XBO. That's why not all games work currently. Besides, you can't run the games directly from their disc. You have to download them into your HDD first. The disc only serves as a proof you have the game, and unlocks the download file.


What exactly is "retooling"? The games aren't altered in any way. And not all games work as there are licensing issues involved. MS repackages the games, though. And yes, you have to download them as no game on Xbone runs off the disc and to Xbone, the emulator for 360 is just like an Xbone game.

retooling is just recompiling, which is trivial with source, you just use an intel x86 compiler as opposed to a Power PC compiler, and iron out any bugs arising from incompatibility.



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walsufnir on 14 October 2015
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
walsufnir said:


What exactly is "retooling"? The games aren't altered in any way. And not all games work as there are licensing issues involved. MS repackages the games, though. And yes, you have to download them as no game on Xbone runs off the disc and to Xbone, the emulator for 360 is just like an Xbone game.

retooling is just recompiling, which is trivial with source, you just use an intel x86 compiler as opposed to a Power PC compiler, and iron out any bugs arising from incompatibility.


I don't need to you to tell me what Hnyad meant and how recompiling works - it is the wrong term and especially it is not what is happening.



walsufnir on 14 October 2015
MegaDrive08 said:
Well you maybe playing Bayonetta 2 10 years from now lol Enjoy the wait ;)


Yeah, because in 10 years Bayonetta 2 is a worse game than it is now, right? Lol.