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Protendo said:

Considering they are marketing this and the LE as a way to play the game one week early I expected a greater bump.

These market tactics don't sit well with me as they are anti-consumer, and kind of enforce the previous notion that the Microsoft is taking an anti-consumer approach with the Xbox One. I could only hope that these practices backfire, and aren't the trend going forward.


You don't get to play the game 1 week earlier. It's only to give them time to pre-download, since the bundle comes with a digital copy. That way they get to play the game at 00:00:00 on launch day.



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Teeqoz said:
Protendo said:

Considering they are marketing this and the LE as a way to play the game one week early I expected a greater bump.

These market tactics don't sit well with me as they are anti-consumer, and kind of enforce the previous notion that the Microsoft is taking an anti-consumer approach with the Xbox One. I could only hope that these practices backfire, and aren't the trend going forward.


You don't get to play the game 1 week earlier. It's only to give them time to pre-download, since the bundle comes with a digital copy. That way they get to play the game at 00:00:00 on launch day.

Oh that's it?  That's not nearly so bad as what my buddy told me. Time to cancel my LE and order the standard edition. Back to hoping Xbox One wins so I can win my bet.   

Seriously if they don't win the month that would be terrible.

Edit: To late.  



XB1 Halo LE back in TOP 20. If only was a $400 bundle... it would be a easy XB1 victory even with the PS4 price cut.



This is how I have USA sales so for October purely trying to deduce something from the Amazon ranking.

Halo bundle preorders coming into October 70k. (Based on sales position for August in relation to games and other consoles then reduced the figure slightly to factor in preorders are normally higher on online stores.)

Week 1 - 90k - PS4 25k - X1
Totals - 100k - PS4 95k - X1

I'm assuming that the baseline will be 400k PS4 sales for the month with the price cut. Each week ramping up in sales as we close in on the holidays - wk1 90k - wk2 90k - wk3 100k - wk4 120k.

Here how I translate the week 1 amazon rankings into USA sales.

PS4 Destiny bundle: #22 - 35k
PS4 TLoU bundle: #25 - 30k
PS4 NDC bundle: #36 - 20k
XBO Halo 5 bundle: #38 - 15k (if this wasn't preorders for a LE console I would of had it at 20k also. Preorders tend to be higher on online stores)
XBO Madden bundle: #91 & XBO Gears bundle: #96 - 5k
Other PS4 bundles - 5k
Other X1 bundles - 5k

So I have it that the PS4 has wiped the X1 preorders sale 1st week. X1 and PS4 sales will be closer in the 2nd week and 3rd week with PS4 still winning. Halo week will see a big spike in X1 sales.

Seem reasonable? Or a complete load of shit?



Ryng_Tolu said:

XB1 Halo LE back in TOP 20. If only was a $400 bundle... it would be a easy XB1 victory even with the PS4 price cut.

 Its like you want it to lose? Why is that? 



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Ryng_Tolu said:

XB1 Halo LE back in TOP 20. If only was a $400 bundle...

Then it would not be a collector, but a simple pack with a normal game.



SWORDF1SH said:

This is how I have USA sales so for October purely trying to deduce something from the Amazon ranking.

Halo bundle preorders coming into October 70k. (Based on sales position for August in relation to games and other consoles then reduced the figure slightly to factor in preorders are normally higher on online stores.)

Week 1 - 90k - PS4 25k - X1
Totals - 100k - PS4 95k - X1

I'm assuming that the baseline will be 400k PS4 sales for the month with the price cut. Each week ramping up in sales as we close in on the holidays - wk1 90k - wk2 90k - wk3 100k - wk4 120k.

Here how I translate the week 1 amazon rankings into USA sales.

PS4 Destiny bundle: #22 - 35k
PS4 TLoU bundle: #25 - 30k
PS4 NDC bundle: #36 - 20k
XBO Halo 5 bundle: #38 - 15k (if this wasn't preorders for a LE console I would of had it at 20k also. Preorders tend to be higher on online stores)
XBO Madden bundle: #91 & XBO Gears bundle: #96 - 5k
Other PS4 bundles - 5k
Other X1 bundles - 5k

So I have it that the PS4 has wiped the X1 preorders sale 1st week. X1 and PS4 sales will be closer in the 2nd week and 3rd week with PS4 still winning. Halo week will see a big spike in X1 sales.

Seem reasonable? Or a complete load of shit?


As you asked...

This reasoning is a big pile of shit.

You and others are reading to much into Amazon charts without think in the marketing as a whole. 

Your numbers are no better than guesses.



Dark_Feanor said:
SWORDF1SH said:

This is how I have USA sales so for October purely trying to deduce something from the Amazon ranking.

Halo bundle preorders coming into October 70k. (Based on sales position for August in relation to games and other consoles then reduced the figure slightly to factor in preorders are normally higher on online stores.)

Week 1 - 90k - PS4 25k - X1
Totals - 100k - PS4 95k - X1

I'm assuming that the baseline will be 400k PS4 sales for the month with the price cut. Each week ramping up in sales as we close in on the holidays - wk1 90k - wk2 90k - wk3 100k - wk4 120k.

Here how I translate the week 1 amazon rankings into USA sales.

PS4 Destiny bundle: #22 - 35k
PS4 TLoU bundle: #25 - 30k
PS4 NDC bundle: #36 - 20k
XBO Halo 5 bundle: #38 - 15k (if this wasn't preorders for a LE console I would of had it at 20k also. Preorders tend to be higher on online stores)
XBO Madden bundle: #91 & XBO Gears bundle: #96 - 5k
Other PS4 bundles - 5k
Other X1 bundles - 5k

So I have it that the PS4 has wiped the X1 preorders sale 1st week. X1 and PS4 sales will be closer in the 2nd week and 3rd week with PS4 still winning. Halo week will see a big spike in X1 sales.

Seem reasonable? Or a complete load of shit?


As you asked...

This reasoning is a big pile of shit.

You and others are reading to much into Amazon charts without think in the marketing as a whole. 

Your numbers are no better than guesses.

Of course it's my guess. It's my guess based off the Amazon rankings. What did I "without think" about? Is there any more data that could help my guessimate?

And I know that doing this solely based of Amazon rankings is hard to come up with any solid figures. I'm not reading to much into it, you're just taking my guess too serious.



Week 2.

PS4 TLoU bundle: #19
XBO Halo 5 bundle: #26
PS4 NDC bundle: #29
PS4 LE Star Wars bundle: #34*
PS4 LE COD bundle: #56*
XBO Forza bundle: #91
New 3DS XL: #94
PS4 Standard Star Wars Bundle: #96*
XBO Madden bundle: #99

Edit: Does the week get updated as theweek goes on or do they just add it when it's finished? If this the 12th to the 18th, the week isn't over yet.

*Sales do not affect October NPD



SWORDF1SH said:

Week 2.

PS4 TLoU bundle: #19
XBO Halo 5 bundle: #26
PS4 NDC bundle: #29
PS4 LE Star Wars bundle: #34*
PS4 LE COD bundle: #56*
XBO Forza bundle: #91
New 3DS XL: #94
PS4 Standard Star Wars Bundle: #96
XBO Madden bundle: #99

You should probably have an asterik next to the PS4 Standard Star Wars Bundle. 

Anyway, consoles are going strong.  Xbox One is getting the expected pre release bump.  I suspect that the sales will drop a bit and then rise once again when the Halo 5 releases.  Its very interesting.  No one expected PS4 to be leading at this point but with two weeks left to go a lot can still happen.