the vita failed because its not a phone. bring out a vita phone everyone would buy it
JRPGfan said:
Then they spent to much on the design of it, if it needed to be sold at 250$ to make any profit. Thats the thing to take away from this, portables cant be sold that expensive and still thrive.
Nintendo where smart, after 5 months of bad sales, they cut the price to 169$. |
You're right, but you see this is exactly why Sony failed with the Vita. The PS4 was the first time they sold a console at a profit. They always overdesigned their consoles in the past, taking a loss on the system so that they would get all the third party support.
That fucking failed with the PS3 cause of the 360, and it failed again with the Vita because price.
But at the same time, is it even possible that Sony could compete against Nintendo, with the same or cheaper hardware on the handheld front, Nintendo who has been the GOD AND CREATOR OF THE HANDHELD MARKET FOR ALL OF TIME ? It was a forgone conclusion that the Vita would be to expensive, it had to be. A catch-22 if you will, to be competitive it had to be expensive, which makes it not competitive. The PSP sold a lot of units yes, but for Sony it was a failure because of the piracy, those memory cards happened because of the PSP.
Congrats now the piracy is blocked, oh what's that piracy was the only thing selling the system? Shit....
OH WHATS THAT now the console is even MORE expensive. SHHIIIIIIIIIITTTTT!!!!
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As much as i love my Vita, i just want to see Sony doing well. If that means that they have to ditch the Vita to go full throttle with the Ps4, by all means do that.
They have waay too much pride in what they do, clinging to failed devices till the end. I dont understand how they still have line of products that havent made them a dime in fucking decades.
Sony man...they are just too stubborn.
I love them tho.
| pokoko said: Regarding the argument that the Vita failed because of a lack of first-party titles, because of the memory cards, or because of a lack of marketing, I honestly could not disagree more. Sony could have doubled the first-party software production, gone with standard memory cards, and spent millions more on advertising and it would have changed almost nothing. None of those are the reasons why it failed. The simple truth is that they do not have the kind of legacy first-party software franchises that force people into buying a handheld electronic device. In the current environment, having a Pokemon is everything. It pulls in adults because they played it when they were kids and it pulls in kids because of the nature of the IP. Sony never developed anything like that on the PSP. Even if they'd tried, it's quite possible that the PSP is too modern for it to really have taken root. Third-parties in the west, of course, have dropped dedicated handheld development, so there is no help from that side. That's just the way things are now. The general population doesn't even want to buy a 3DS; if Pokemon had been on smart-phones, I bet the average consumer would have happily gone that route, instead. |
The PlayStation brand has a lot of 3rd party series that are iconic for its userbase. If Sony had licensed some of those for the Vita, it could have helped. A Crash Bandicoot Vita made by Sony, or an exclusive MGS or a GTA...
| Ruler said: the vita failed because its not a phone. bring out a vita phone everyone would buy it |
Nope
Darwinianevolution said:
The PlayStation brand has a lot of 3rd party series that are iconic for its userbase. If Sony had licensed some of those for the Vita, it could have helped. A Crash Bandicoot Vita made by Sony, or an exclusive MGS or a GTA... |
You know who did get a MGS for their handheld? NIntendo.
You know why? because they are THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY MOST HOLIEST OF HOLY GOD, CREATOR, AND MESSAIH OF THE HANDHELD MARKET FOR ALL TIME IMMEMORIAL.
Good luck getting any exclusive third party support from them.
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DerNebel said:
Nope |
arguments?
Ruler said:
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Xperia phones, while being amazing like they are, they just dont sell well.
Imagine a gaming branded phone, it would be too fucking niche to move units.
And im not talking Gran Turismo or Football (Soccer) kind of niche, this would be NICHE NICHE.
Ruler said:
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What do you mean when you say a "Vita phone"? A phone with buttons and Vita specs for dedicated gaming experiences?
| Darwinianevolution said: The PlayStation brand has a lot of 3rd party series that are iconic for its userbase. If Sony had licensed some of those for the Vita, it could have helped. A Crash Bandicoot Vita made by Sony, or an exclusive MGS or a GTA... |
It would still have been a failure. Crash or MGS would have barely moved the dial at all. GTA is probably the only thing that could have helped but they aren't in charge of that IP, obviously, and Rockstar has little reason to go back to handhelds. Even if the Vita had gotten a GTA, the boost would not have been all that significant, not with GTA 5 on the horizon.
Having legacy franchises that appeal to kids is what saved the 3DS in the west. Sony has no handheld options that can match that.
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