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Zackasaurus-rex on 13 September 2015

Dat f2p and casual...



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generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
Zackasaurus-rex said:
Dat f2p and casual...

the funny thing is, those f2p are the biggest E-sport title atm



youarebadatgames on 13 September 2015

https://youtu.be/w9Fctn2Pgik

lol



hunter_alien on 13 September 2015
Conina said:
hunter_alien said:

Also, when it comes down to raw power, it doesnt really matter what a PC can do. Show me a single 2005 PC (that is technically more powerfull then a PS3) that could run a game like UC3. That is the extra you are getting with a console: one configuration that is optimized for years to come.

Show me a single 2005 home console that could run a game like UC3. PS3 wasn't available until late 2006, here in Europe even after March 2007. ;)

And the PC situation at the start of the 7th console gen was much different than at the start of the 8th console gen. The Xbox360 was more powerful from the start than any (non-SLI) gaming PC... Core2Duo and 8800GTX weren't released yet. PS4 + XBO didn't top any non-SLI gaming PC in 2013. 

Actually both the X360 and PS3 were baesd powerwise on high-en 2005 tech. You can change what I wrote to 2006 and 2007, and my point still stands. Hell you can go back to the start of the 6th and 5th generation and my poin t is still valid. Consoles are meant to be gamecentric optimization boxes. And they are perfect at that.



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hunter_alien on 13 September 2015
zero129 said:
hunter_alien said:
Conina said:
hunter_alien said:

Also, when it comes down to raw power, it doesnt really matter what a PC can do. Show me a single 2005 PC (that is technically more powerfull then a PS3) that could run a game like UC3. That is the extra you are getting with a console: one configuration that is optimized for years to come.

Show me a single 2005 home console that could run a game like UC3. PS3 wasn't available until late 2006, here in Europe even after March 2007. ;)

And the PC situation at the start of the 7th console gen was much different than at the start of the 8th console gen. The Xbox360 was more powerful from the start than any (non-SLI) gaming PC... Core2Duo and 8800GTX weren't released yet. PS4 + XBO didn't top any non-SLI gaming PC in 2013. 

Actually both the X360 and PS3 were baesd powerwise on high-en 2005 tech. You can change what I wrote to 2006 and 2007, and my point still stands. Hell you can go back to the start of the 6th and 5th generation and my poin t is still valid. Consoles are meant to be gamecentric optimization boxes. And they are perfect at that.

Yes but i think your missing what Conina is saying.

The 360 and PS3 where like really high end systems when they launched compared to PC. It took like until 2008-9 before hardware could be got cheap enough to outperfom both of them pretty easy.

Big difference this gen is Both Sony and MS went cheap on hardware since they didnt want to take huge loses this gen (And you cant blame them) so they launched systems that instead of being high end was just like mid range pc's, and i dont mean that in any bad way its just a simple fact.


I think that is mostly down to the fact that this generation will not last 7-8 years, it will probably be something in line with 5-6, like previous generations. The transition period between the 2 hurt the industry IMO, and that is what they speculate about now. + the fact that Nintendo made it pretty well last gen with an underpowered console, maybe made them trust developer power more, then hardware superiority :-?



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b00moscone on 13 September 2015
GTstation said:

Well yahh pc market spends more on hardware, you payed 2k for hardware to play a inferior version of a game i play on a $300 console. Makes no sense to me but to each their own.

Where do the game sale most ? says enough to me.


Erm, recently I spent £600 on a gaming PC that maxes out anything I play, including MGSV, Arkham City and more.

I'm not sure where you got that fact from :P



 

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Ganoncrotch on 13 September 2015
zero129 said:
GTstation said:
zero129 said:
GTstation said:

Well yahh pc market spends more on hardware, you payed 2k for hardware to play a inferior version of a game i play on a $300 console. Makes no sense to me but to each their own.

Where do the game sale most ? says enough to me.

Exactly how to you figure that out?,a 500$ PC got today would easy outperfom the PS4 when it comes to 3rd party games and does (Unless you think cos batman = all games?? if so thats just silly). Also i have never ever spend 2k on my pc but i love how thats always the defence stance with console only gamers. It costs like 2k to outperfom my 300 console, You cant plug your pc into your tv (Even when thats what im using mine on now) you cant use joypads etc etc. So many mis facts and lies gets spread by console only gamers against pc its not even funny just sad...

And what good is that when the game is build and optimiesed for console, expensive pc hardware is an after thought.

No defense from me, but you clealry are taking this overly personal and are apperantly hurt by something i said.  To put it more plainly for you I just just said NO SHIt PC hardware sales is bigger given PCs can cost 2k while console go for 3 bills give or take.  Cool get it? 

joyads lol some one is getting super defensive lol. 

Really?. clearly someone is salty but its not me.. You said that a person spends 2k on hardware to play versions of games thats worse then your console versions.

IU just stated a fact that a 500 dollor pc can outperfom any of the consoles. Now your changing what you originly said and trying to say im upset about it...

And also even if games are only being made for consoles and ported to pc as an after thought like you like to say then why does 99.9% of every multi platform game look alot better on PC's that cost a lot less then 2k then they do on consoles??.


I wouldn't mind seeing the break down of such a PC, providing it includes the OS and a proper set of controls for gaming, I mean... you could almost lose 500 on a windows licence and a proper gaming mouse/keyboard. Wouldn't leave you much change for a real gaming PC.



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LudicrousSpeed on 13 September 2015
GTstation said:

Well yahh pc market spends more on hardware, you payed 2k for hardware to play a inferior version of a game i play on a $300 console. Makes no sense to me but to each their own.

Where do the game sale most ? says enough to me.

LOL. So much wrong in one post.



Lawlight on 13 September 2015

Nobody wants to address the fact that most of the growth comes from China or SK?



dahuman on 14 September 2015
hunter_alien said:
zero129 said:
GTstation said:

Well yahh pc market spends more on hardware, you payed 2k for hardware to play a inferior version of a game i play on a $300 console. Makes no sense to me but to each their own.

Where do the game sale most ? says enough to me.

Exactly how to you figure that out?,a 500$ PC got today would easy outperfom the PS4 when it comes to 3rd party games and does (Unless you think cos batman = all games?? if so thats just silly). Also i have never ever spend 2k on my pc but i love how thats always the defence stance with console only gamers. It costs like 2k to outperfom my 300 console, You cant plug your pc into your tv (Even when thats what im using mine on now) you cant use joypads etc etc. So many mis facts and lies gets spread by console only gamers against pc its not even funny just sad...

Bullshit.... I just assambled a fairly good, mid-end PC worth 800 euros, and guess what, it has issues running Witcher 3 on highest settings in 1080p. Of course, the guy could have opted for a cheaper mask, smaller HDD and no SSD, but then what the fuck are we talking about? Truth is, if you want a gaimg rig (and only the rig itself) that lasts you 3 years for gaming and get some work squeezed out on it, get ready to spend some 1000 euros.

I am not saying it is a bad investment, but it is a fact that hardware wise a gaming PC is far more expensive then a console. And a 500$ PC is a low-end garbage bin, that you should be ready to invest in in a year or so. I love PC gaming, and I probably played more on PC then consoles in the last 3-4 years, but lets be honest here. Games are cheaper, true, but so are used or older games on consoles...

Sorry that you live in Europe, I've heard prices there for PC parts are absolute shit and you have my condolences.