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I was just in Montana a few months ago and I met some of the nicest people I ever have in my life. Despite being half a day's drive away they thought that Canada was called Canadia, and quite a few were fat but I'm not going to judge a whole country based on that. We were treated very well and all of the Americans I have met on this forum are really great people so that is one assumption (Americans are dicks) that has been crossed off my list. And I think Americans are quite varied and cultured too, despite what a lot of people say. Just like in Canada, an American can be black, white, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, etc, and just like in Canada they speak and act differently depending on what part of the country they are from. Americans are a very proud and patriotic people that hold their values and country very close to their heart. All Americans I've met irl have been very opinionated I'll admit, but that isn't something that irks me personally. I've met hospitable Texans, down-to-earth Colorado people, kind small-town Montana folk, and bustling New Yorkers. The city-folk are more dickish than the rural folk but that goes for any country.

What do I think of the USA? Well I'm not sure how to respond to such a general question. The media? The politics? The social layering? One thing I can say is that it annoys me how divided the country is when it comes to politics. Maybe it's because of what the political parties represent but you don't see that a lot in Canada. There are a lot of political grey areas and overlaps here but in the USA it seems black and white to me. South vs North; "Socialist" Democrat vs "Hillbilly" Republican. In Canada there is a bit of friction between the French Canadians and Anglophones but it is less frequent and less vocal; more social than political. The Eastern manufacturing/fishing provinces vs the western resource/farming provinces will differ in political opinion but the voting is pretty evenly spread. The Conservative west and Liberal east don't really seem that separate, especially since the NDP got elected in Alberta. In Canada it really feels more like a united whole than it seems in the USA when it comes to Politics. American politics annoy me because I think they could move forward a lot more as a country if they all agreed on a political middle-ground instead of these extremes. Obviously that is absurd to ask of them and I cannot see it happening anytime soon, but like I said before, it surprises me how the French and English here in Canada get along a whole lot better than the English vs English in the USA. Anyhow rant over lol.

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I don't know... I have been there just twice (Orlando and New York) and that was when I was younger. So I can't make any solid comment.

But I'll say something, I like your spirit and am very curious about the lifestyle of smaller towns and interior of the country. I'm planning on making a travel to those places next year to observe how life is and how people live. That's something that amazes me for a long time and I don't know why. :P



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I have one strong opinion to add about America. I think students are absolutely ripped off when they go to post-secondary and I think it is unfair that folks are in debt before they even get jobs. It happens in Canada too but we have more job opportunities I'd argue. Also they need to treat their lower class better.



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Ehh.

It's hard for myself (and about 90% of Americans) to truly complain about any of America's problems when so many in the world are suffering from religious persecution, starvation, unstable weather climates, ect.

I could rant all day about my problems living in America but when you put them into perspective; it seems very selfish.

That said; the things I do dislike living here include a focus on social media, over-sensitivity, lack of focus on physical education, lack of education in general, and healthy/organic food being significantly overpriced when compared to junk/processed food.


Completely agree. Those are some things that really bug me. It's like they don't want us to be educated and healthy.



I'm married to one of you lot, and I like her. But then again, she's one of the non-isolationist Americans who left the country permanently, so you'd probably hate her and call her un-American. Most Americans I know are great people, but they tend to be the more liberal minded ones because they are the American's who aren't afraid of the rest of the world and who have left the USA temporarily or permanently in order to see and understand a bit more about the world.

If you became as isolationist as you wanted to you'd eventually morph into North Korea. That's what isolationist countries do, they become more extreme, less tolerant, and more militaristic. I guess if you want all those things then continue chanting for isolationism. But I don't think you really understand what isolationism means. You may be more inclined to be in favour of neutrality, like Switzerland, than isolationism like North Korea and Bhutan.



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Being from Texas and traveling through probably roughly 50% of the country, I think it's halfway decent. Generally speaking the average American is very nice and willing to help a person in need. I find that very comforting. At the same time, I feel like the country could better itself. Our education is decent but could be better, our obsession with social media (though this isn't just an American problem) is a bit annoying, and there's this weird thing where we're promoted to be different and yet celebrate being the same/criticizing those different from us which is weird... and confuses the hell outta me

My main complaint though is feeling like an outsider in my own country o.o I no longer live in Texas and am often reminded by that when I go out and here people around me make fun of Texans XD I had a class in high school where the teacher would often make fun of people from Texas and would purposely find articles making fun of people from that state (I'm not sure what happened between him and that state but he seemingly hated it) but all the kids would laugh and I felt extremely uncomfortable from it all and unwelcome o~o granted, he probably didnt know I was from Texas, but still and he's not the only one who does that stuff, it tends to happen a lot.

America is ok, but je prefere Australia >:3 I'd move there if I could v.v XD



Poliwrathlord said:
Johnw1104 said:
There's plenty of countries I'd live in. Having visited over 30 it's quite clear life can be a wonderful adventure and experience in many, many countries.

Still, the U.S. will always feel like home. I very much like it here, despite how much we all seem to hate ourselves these days.


I don't know why there is so much self-hate in the U.S., really seems kind of odd and makes me wonder if other countries experience self-hate.

Becuase you're all very bipolar in your thinking. You love the constitution when it suits, you hate it when it doesn't. You love the constitution when it protects gun rights, you hate it when it protects gay rights. Or you love it when it protects gay rights but hate it when it protects gun rights. You love religious freedom, but you hate the separation of church and state. You support state's rights but only when states are making decisions you agree with. You hate political gridlock in Washington, but you also hate bipartisanship. You think government is the problem, but its actually politics that's the problem. Capitalism and private enterprise is the solution to all problems, but big business is evil.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

binary solo said:
I'm married to one of you lot, and I like her. But then again, she's one of the non-isolationist Americans who left the country permanently, so you'd probably hate her and call her un-American. Most Americans I know are great people, but they tend to be the more liberal minded ones because they are the American's who aren't afraid of the rest of the world and who have left the USA temporarily or permanently in order to see and understand a bit more about the world.

If you became as isolationist as you wanted to you'd eventually morph into North Korea. That's what isolationist countries do, they become more extreme, less tolerant, and more militaristic. I guess if you want all those things then continue chanting for isolationism. But I don't think you really understand what isolationism means. You may be more inclined to be in favour of neutrality, like Switzerland, than isolationism like North Korea and Bhutan.

I wouldn't consider your wife un-American. I have left my country and have seen the world and I too would also consider moving to another country permanently. I am not afraid of the rest of the world, I just love my country.

As for the isolation thing, I just want it to be harder to become a citizen of the U.S. and for us to try to crack down on illeagal immigration. And yes, you are correct, I would prefer neutrality and for the U.S. not to get involved in the rest of the world's problems. I would rather us sit back and watch the rest of the world burn and for us not to interfere.



Poliwrathlord said:

What do you think about America?

I love America. It is my homeland and I am glad to live here.  That being said I do hate some things about my homeland. I do not like the people who live in my country. Too many religious nutjobs (I'm religious just so you know) and also there are a lot of ignorant morons on both sides of the political spectrum, both liberal and conservative. I am embarrased about my country being the home to many idiots such as George W. Bush, most people on Fox News, and Anita Sarkeesian (is she 'Murican IDK). But I am also glad that I share the same homeland with great poeple like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, MLK Jr., Mark Twain, and Harriet Tubman.

I am annoyed with America's foreign policies. I wish we were more isolationist like we were in the 1930's and kept our noses out of the rest of the world's problems. I whole heartedly wish we would close our borders and never interact with the rest of the world again, but I know that being completely isolationist would probably never be possible in the U.S.

That is just my opinion, what is yours? Do you love America or do you chant death to America (along with your fellow Jihadists)!

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PS: Not a Bush fan. Admittedly he was not very analytical, which is truly problematic for someone like me who deals with functional logic on a daily basis.



Considering the popularity Trump has in your country, a lot of americans seem to be brain-dead. And the arrogance the government has is pretty annoying. Otherwise, it's pretty decent.