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danielrdp on 08 September 2015
AZWification said:

I've read the comments and many seem to be hoping for strong 3rd party support. I really hope they are not expecting anything from Western publishers, because that's not happening in this lifetime. Heck, even in the NES/SNES days the support came from Japanese publishers like Konami and Capcom.

Sad but true. However Ubisoft and Activision used to support the Wii. I think if the hardware is powerful enough, they'll be on board and support the system. Probably only EA would turn their nose up. 



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AZWification on 08 September 2015
danielrdp said:
AZWification said:

I've read the comments and many seem to be hoping for strong 3rd party support. I really hope they are not expecting anything from Western publishers, because that's not happening in this lifetime. Heck, even in the NES/SNES days the support came from Japanese publishers like Konami and Capcom.

Sad but true. However Ubisoft and Activision used to support the Wii. I think if the hardware is powerful enough, they'll be on board and support the system. Probably only EA would turn their nose up. 

it would be cool if Activisio nand Ubisoft would start supporting Nintendo systems once again, but how would their games sell? That's what worries me.



                
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Luke888 on 08 September 2015
AZWification said:
danielrdp said:
AZWification said:

I've read the comments and many seem to be hoping for strong 3rd party support. I really hope they are not expecting anything from Western publishers, because that's not happening in this lifetime. Heck, even in the NES/SNES days the support came from Japanese publishers like Konami and Capcom.

Sad but true. However Ubisoft and Activision used to support the Wii. I think if the hardware is powerful enough, they'll be on board and support the system. Probably only EA would turn their nose up. 

it would be cool if Activisio nand Ubisoft would start supporting Nintendo systems once again, but how would their games sell? That's what worries me.


If Nintendo makes a powerful console I can see Sony and Xbox players that own those consoles only for third party (and it's the vast majority) many of them might buy NX to play the best version of the game possible...



danielrdp on 08 September 2015
Luke888 said:
AZWification said:
danielrdp said:
AZWification said:

I've read the comments and many seem to be hoping for strong 3rd party support. I really hope they are not expecting anything from Western publishers, because that's not happening in this lifetime. Heck, even in the NES/SNES days the support came from Japanese publishers like Konami and Capcom.

Sad but true. However Ubisoft and Activision used to support the Wii. I think if the hardware is powerful enough, they'll be on board and support the system. Probably only EA would turn their nose up. 

it would be cool if Activisio nand Ubisoft would start supporting Nintendo systems once again, but how would their games sell? That's what worries me.


If Nintendo makes a powerful console I can see Sony and Xbox players that onw those consoles only for third party (and it's the vast majority) many of them might buy NX to play the best version of the game possible...

This. It would also help if Nintendo decides to change their approanch and releases more mature games like a gritty Metroid Prime or a new Eternal Darkness. Remember when N64 were the console to play shooters. Nintendo can appeal to those player as well as nintendo fan base.



Luke888 on 08 September 2015
danielrdp said:
Luke888 said:


If Nintendo makes a powerful console I can see Sony and Xbox players that onw those consoles only for third party (and it's the vast majority) many of them might buy NX to play the best version of the game possible...

This. It would also help if Nintendo decides to change their approanch and releases more mature games like a gritty Metroid Prime or a new Eternal Darkness. Remember when N64 were the console to play shooters. Nintendo can appeal to those player as well as nintendo fan base.


I mean, if Nintendo pushes some MATURE games like Metroid Prime, Xenoblade and F-Zero they could easily get a good chunk of the players, ofc the console needs to be powerfull and the games need to be advertised properly



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the_dark_lewd on 08 September 2015

I like this guy. He reminds me of every goth dude I knew back in school days. Except he actually talks. They just brooded in the corner.



AZWification on 08 September 2015
Luke888 said:
danielrdp said:

This. It would also help if Nintendo decides to change their approanch and releases more mature games like a gritty Metroid Prime or a new Eternal Darkness. Remember when N64 were the console to play shooters. Nintendo can appeal to those player as well as nintendo fan base.


I mean, if Nintendo pushes some MATURE games like Metroid Prime, Xenoblade and F-Zero they could easily get a good chunk of the players, ofc the console needs to be powerfull and the games need to be advertised properly

I really wonder if an Eternal Darkness game could help! Horror games are becoming more and more relevant nowadays. Just look at Amnesia and FNaF!



                
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zorg1000 on 08 September 2015
danielrdp said:
Luke888 said:


If Nintendo makes a powerful console I can see Sony and Xbox players that onw those consoles only for third party (and it's the vast majority) many of them might buy NX to play the best version of the game possible...

This. It would also help if Nintendo decides to change their approanch and releases more mature games like a gritty Metroid Prime or a new Eternal Darkness. Remember when N64 were the console to play shooters. Nintendo can appeal to those player as well as nintendo fan base.


Idk, in theory that sounds great but we already saw such a plan with GameCube and that didn't work too well. It was powerful, affordable, had  a standard controller, strong western support (EA/Ubisoft/Activison/Warner Bros/Midway/Acclaim/Atari/Eidos), Resident Evil exclusivity, return or Japanese devs that primarily ignored N64 (Namco/Square-Enix/Capcom/Konami), along with the introduction of games u just referenced like Metorid Prime & Eternal Darkness.

GameCube is the closest thing to what u describe that we have seen and it did rather poor even with being $99 for the majority of its life. To me, that's a pretty good indication that Nintendo should not strive to be like the others and instead needs to offer new things to differentiate from the competition like NES/Wii.



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thatguymarco on 08 September 2015

He's too right for Nintendo to acknowledge him, and for Nintendo fanboys to think about what he's saying. Truth hurts, ya know.



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danielrdp on 08 September 2015
zorg1000 said:
danielrdp said:

This. It would also help if Nintendo decides to change their approanch and releases more mature games like a gritty Metroid Prime or a new Eternal Darkness. Remember when N64 were the console to play shooters. Nintendo can appeal to those player as well as nintendo fan base.


Idk, in theory that sounds great but we already saw such a plan with GameCube and that didn't work too well. It was powerful, affordable, had  a standard controller, strong western support (EA/Ubisoft/Activison/Warner Bros/Midway/Acclaim/Atari/Eidos), Resident Evil exclusivity, return or Japanese devs that primarily ignored N64 (Namco/Square-Enix/Capcom/Konami), along with the introduction of games u just referenced like Metorid Prime & Eternal Darkness.

GameCube is the closest thing to what u describe that we have seen and it did rather poor even with being $99 for the majority of its life. To me, that's a pretty good indication that Nintendo should not strive to be like the others and instead needs to offer new things to differentiate from the competition like NES/Wii.

Nintendo was really luck with the Wii. I don't know if that can possible happen again. Gamecube biggest problem was the mini disc that Nintendo opted to use. Third parties had to try to fit the game in one or two discs, sometimes losing features in the process. Gamecube wasn't the perfect console either. Besides Microsoft introduced the Xbox live in 2002. Nintendo didn't have nothing similar to offer. We all know how important live is now. Nintendo shouldn't stop trying to compete with Sony and Microsft, because the gamecube's failure.