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What is your opinion on the Ashley Madison Hack?

Website is at fault 10 3.36%
 
Website and users are at fault 34 11.41%
 
Everyone subject to hacking is a victim 44 14.77%
 
All cheaters should get screwed 75 25.17%
 
Cheating is no big deal, ... 8 2.68%
 
I hope I am not among the names leaked 11 3.69%
 
I keep my Love Pillow awa... 1 0.34%
 
Hackers, cheaters and the... 30 10.07%
 
The people cheated on and... 41 13.76%
 
I don't care. 44 14.77%
 
Total:298
Lawlight on 25 August 2015
padib said:
generic-user-1 said:


it looks like you know nothing jon snow...

I know, I just don't spoil shit to everyone one the internet because I read about a theory on some asoiaf forum.

So you know R+L=J, keep it to yourself.


If it's a theory then there's no spoiling.



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Lawlight on 25 August 2015
padib said:
Soundwave said:


We're just going to have to agree to disagree if you think infidelity is on par with murder and pedophilia, because there's no arguement you can make that will logically work for me on that. 

If you're really shocked to find out your significant other was on a website like this too, IMO you were lying to yourself most likely for a long time to begin with anyway. 

We know human beings like to fuck. I'm just putting that bluntly because it's hardwired into our DNA, to deny that is to be naive, we wouldn't exist if we didn't have an overwhelming urge to want to do so. I'm not saying that's a good thing per se, but it is a survival mechanism. So I don't really believe in all the "shaming" that comes with it. 

No it's not a great thing to do, but neither is eating yourself to obesity or indulging in too much drinking, yet we're not surprised that some people like to eat a lot or drink a lot, sex is far more pleasurable than either of those things, why is it such a shock to some people that some people have trouble controlling how much sex they have? It doesn't surprise me, and I don't neccessarily think it's the end of the world. 

In terms of these hackers, I don't think they have the right to put their pain of likely being cheated on themselves and intrude on so many people's lives like this. If your girlfriend wasn't faithful, I'm sorry, but that doesn't give you the right to cause a broad spectrum of people pain, including people who never followed through on anything or family members who don't want this information public. 


Morals are a very personal thing and so it's very normal that we disagree. What I will tell you is that what you define as a struggle, I can just as easily describe as a severe breach of trust on what is a covenant of trust and loyalty. And of course you can argue the opposite way if I argued that pedophilia was a real struggle for some individuals.

As for hackers, they are real and will always exist, much like pirates. You can complain all you want, but they don't operate on the same moral playing field as you do and so I would advise you to perceive them more pragmatically.


More pragmatically says the poster who views hackers as heroes who help the community.



Lawlight on 25 August 2015
padib said:
Lawlight said:


If it's a theory then there's no spoiling.

Facepalm


What's the point of posting if you cannot formulate your thought?



Lawlight on 25 August 2015
padib said:
Lawlight said:


What's the point of posting if you cannot formulate your thought?

It should be clear to anyone with half a brain that your comment was utterly devoid of proper thought. But if I must explain, then in the words of the author himself, if people find the answer to his clues, they should keep the secret too.

To spill them out on an online forum is spoiler.

If you give me a riddle and I find the answer, even if you haven't confirmed the answer, it's best to keep it secret until everyone had a chance to answer it themselves.

Anyway congratulations on knowing what you know, and good for you. Now just stop spoiling it to others and let them figure it out for themselves.

Fan theories aren't spoilers. You just have to deal with it. Your guess is not an answer and, thus, not a spoiler.



DialgaMarine on 25 August 2015

I honestly find it hilarious.



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Lawlight on 25 August 2015
padib said:
Lawlight said:

Fan theories aren't spoilers. You just have to deal with it. Your guess is not an answer and, thus, not a spoiler.

Have you even read the books at all? It is spoiler if you have.


 Not, I have not. The show has caught up to the book anyway and will end before the book is out. And Martin has not confirmed what is true or not.

The difference between mentioning a fan theory online and pirating or hacking is that the former isn't illegal.



Protendo on 26 August 2015
ganoncrotch said:
Protendo said:
2 wrongs don't make a right.

The true victims are the spouses.


Do you really feel they were better off not knowing their partners were lying to them and cheating on them? ..... and paying money for the service from their households.

I think the hack really should be an eye opener to people who think that cheating could be fine if a website on the Internet tells you to do it, surely those people figured out back in the 90s that they didn't get a bigger penis, fill their bank accounts with funds from their Nigerian Royalty relatives or Get to download and print out medication for free!!!!!

Hacking in general I have issues with, for reasons. But this site and its customers needed a wake up call as to what they were doing being wrong, if you've ever heard anything from the CEO married couple who run the site... you'd want to see them getting hacked like.... a lot.

There is a difference between finding out yourself, and finding out through an alreaedy spread rumor.

If the hackers were righteous, they would have messaged the spouses individually finding them through facebook or some other means.



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Proxy-Pie on 26 August 2015

Why does this site even exist, lol.



Soundwave on 26 August 2015
padib said:
Lawlight said:


 Not, I have not. The show has caught up to the book anyway and will end before the book is out. And Martin has not confirmed what is true or not.

The difference between mentioning a fan theory online and pirating or hacking is that the former isn't illegal.


Illegal is what a government defines, and varies greatly from country to country. So that argument is worth 0


You could say the same thing about "sexual morality". 

Also I kind of take opinions on this matter with a grain of salt. Most of the users here are too young to have been involved in a real string of serious relationships and would need to Google how to put on a condom properly, so this isn't exactly ground zero for the most sexual experience of folkes, lol. 

It's easy to see things as very black and white when you're young and inexperienced with dating, relationships, sex, etc. Everything is supposed to end up like the movies, but older people know that's not that simple most of the time. In the West divorce is around 50% and there's probably another 10% who are just pushing through for the sake of the kids; in the East, people stay in marriages moreso because of extreme social pressure, even the threat of death, not neccessarily because they're happy. 



Puppyroach on 26 August 2015

This situation and the support the hackers get, is also a strong testament to how the Orwellian "1984"-mentality has been accepted in a lot of people´s minds. So many nowadays find it completely acceptable and preferable even, if hackers constantly work towards "outing" people on chat forums and the likes.

Many people (which is evident in threads like these) like a surveillance society, where everyone is being watched and no information is off limits. If we all believed in a society where a persons privacy is fundamental, we would all oppose this, no matter what the issue regarded.

The ironic thing is that these hackers are most likely defenders of their own privacy, thinking that it should be off limits for government to invade their privacy, no matter what they do. But they have no issues at all with invading other peoples privacy and taking on the role as self-proclaimed government themselves.