So you have no answer for the fact that I didn't say "all of the above is going to happen at PSX"?

1. You are not seriously trying to put the Getaway and Eight Days into the same category in terms of still being requested as TLG, FF7:R and Shenmue 3 were, right? That doesn't even begin to make any kind of sense. Both The Getaway and Eight Days were announced in 2005 and have since their disappearance become entirely irrelevant, the amount of people that still actually care about these games is miniscule at best. At best parts of these projects have been revamped and put into London Studios Heist Morpheus games.

It makes perfect sense, neither game has been canceled, in fact both were placed on hold.

Technically no Eight Days wasn't announced in 2005, there was a tech demo of something, but it wasn't announced as that game until 2006. Shenmue had faded into obscurity for 14 years, yet that's still happening, even though it was widely believed that the game would never see the light of day, same goes for the Final Fantasy 7 remake.

The Getaway, just like 8 Days only had a tech demo, which wasn't even called The Getaway in 2005, as with The Last Guardian developers just went quiet, neither have been officially canceled.

Am I saying that both are definitely still in development? No, what I'm saying is that they could be.

Technically the amount of people that still cared about The Last Guardian were miniscule, both 8 Days and The Getaway are probably much more accessible to an audience and appeal to more people than something like TLG,  purely because they're action oriented, british style settings have wide spread appeal.

2. Guerrilla Games is still avoiding to even straight up say that the game will make a 2016 release (they prefer using "we're aiming at 2016") and here you are putting it at march with no indication whatsoever, Amazon is putting it at Dec 31st (often an indicator for the release quarter) and the game isn't even up for digital pre order on the PS store. The game only went into full development after Shadow Fall released and Guerrilla has never made an RPG. Also it's a freaking demo that at this point only the devs are playing, those can always be tweaked to look good. The time between announcement and release of past Guerrilla games is also completely irrelevant, those things change constantly.

Guerrilla purely announcing the game, with real time PS4 gameplay speaks volumes, as I said before both of their last games games came out only 9 months after they were announced, Bloodborne was a similar deal, yet Horizon's gameplay footage is running night and day better than the behind closed doors stuff of Bloodborne was.

Guerrilla have actually been marketing the game, not fading into the background and actively not talking about Horizon.

Bloodborne was announced with CG, this already hints that Horizon is much further along than you think, hell the game's been played behind closed doors in a multitude of different ways, not just that one set way that we've seen in the demo that's currently been revealed and more areas have been seen by journalists.

Guerrilla's past announcements and releases are completely relevent, they could easily have just not spoken about the game yet, let alone shown gameplay, along with a tonne of footage, but funnily enough they've shown a lot, huge areas of the game in that trailer that's been revealed and they're happy to talk to journalists, showing off playable sections of the game, this definitely supports what I'm saying.

You'd have a point if Guerrilla hadn't announced the game with gameplay or shown such a huge amount of the environments within the game, but they have.

There's literally no reason to believe what you're saying.

3. Uncharted 4: Again, it's a freaking demo that only the devs are playing, they showed one of those at last years PSX and it looked like it ran like a releasable game at that point as well. You can take absolutely nothing about the release date away from those.

A huge section, that runs with virtually no frame drops, doesn't crash at all and it's the second one, running much better than The Order 1886 was at this point, you're really not supporting your point of view here.

4. TLG:...Again, demo, seriously it seems I'm just repeating myself here, but it's the same situation.

You are just repeating yourself, with no evidence to support this or any of your other viewpoints.

5. Since you love to use Bloodborne as an example let me tell you what the situation with Bloodborne was at the same point last year: The game was already playable for the public and the release window for early 2015 had already been confirmed, non of that has been the case for Horizon or TLG. Also From Software knows how to make these games as they are pretty much entirely focused on them at this point.

Bloodborne wasn't playable by the public at E3, it was played by the developers behind closed doors, the public didn't get a hands on with it until nearer the end of 2014, also I have to point out that Sony didn't have a conference at Gamescom this year, which is where a release window was announced, we'll probably get that for Horizon at PSW, same goes for TLG or failing that TGS for TLG being that it's a Japan developed game.

Horizon has been in development longer than Bloodborne was, with a much larger team of people working on it, given the size of Guerrilla compared to From Software.

And last but not least, I checked this because I wasn't sure about it but you were the guy that prior to E3 was absolutely certain that GoW4 was going to be announced at the event and that it would release march 2016 and that turned out to be completely off the mark too(something people warned you about as well), so maybe you should take that lesson and not just dismiss it when people are telling you that you're setting yourself up for disappointment again.

Technically God of War has already been announced and at the time that seemed most likely to happen.

Anyway with Horizon it's getting marketed already, was announced with gameplay footage, Guerrilla has a history of announcing games (both of their last games) only 9 months from release.

Maybe you should actually look at the facts, instead of just going by opinion, you're not supporting your viewpoint with any logic or facts, maybe you shouldn't bash people who are just pointing out possibilities here.

As with the God of War thing, I'm pretty sure that I said that I'd hold my hands up if I was wrong about us seeing any gameplay or the game coming out next March, I've done that and if I happen to be wrong here, then I'll do the same.

I won't be disappointed, I'll still play the game when it comes out and it looks awesome right now, in it's current state.

Chill out!