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Slarvax on 12 August 2015
the_dengle said:
Uh, Splatoon boost is due to the update? Color me surprised.

I believe it got more commercials and stuff to advertise the update... What a time to be alive. 



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Farsala on 12 August 2015
Kresnik said:
Nobunaga bomba. RoTTK bomba.

Hardly bomba as that seems to be pretty standard for handheld releases. They consistently sell hardly any units at all, yet Koei continues to make them.

 

I did see decent advertising for it but it vvasn't anything major.



Farsala on 12 August 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Farsala said:
Kresnik said:
Nobunaga bomba. RoTTK bomba.

Hardly bomba as that seems to be pretty standard for handheld releases. They consistently sell hardly any units at all, yet Koei continues to make them.

 

I did see decent advertising for it but it vvasn't anything major.

With them both being numbered 2 are they rereleases as well? If so that would also explain why they sold so poorly.

They are both remakes and not of the 2nd title.



Farsala on 12 August 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Farsala said:
Ka-pi96 said:

With them both being numbered 2 are they rereleases as well? If so that would also explain why they sold so poorly.

They are both remakes and not of the 2nd title.

Which ones are they remakes of?

Nobunagas is a remake of the DS title, vvhich is also a remake of the 7th in the series. Rotk is a remake of the 3rd one, a former SNes game.



Kresnik on 13 August 2015
Farsala said:

Hardly bomba as that seems to be pretty standard for handheld releases. They consistently sell hardly any units at all, yet Koei continues to make them.

Famitsu's sellthrough suggests that Koei Tecmo and/or retailers were expecting a lot more, hence "bomba".



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Farsala on 13 August 2015
Kresnik said:
Farsala said:

Hardly bomba as that seems to be pretty standard for handheld releases. They consistently sell hardly any units at all, yet Koei continues to make them.

Famitsu's sellthrough suggests that Koei Tecmo and/or retailers were expecting a lot more, hence "bomba".


And they probably still expect it to sell. Cannot just simply look at sellthrough and label as bomba. The last Nobunagas ambition on 3DS sold about 9000 FVV. This is a remake of a remake released alongside a remake. Both are similar games and end up selling 8000 together.



hiska-kun on 13 August 2015
Kresnik said:
Farsala said:

Hardly bomba as that seems to be pretty standard for handheld releases. They consistently sell hardly any units at all, yet Koei continues to make them.

Famitsu's sellthrough suggests that Koei Tecmo and/or retailers were expecting a lot more, hence "bomba".

Sell-through is horrible, but when we're talking about 3,000 units, what's left? 8,000 copies? Percentage looks bad, units left is not that terrible.

A true bomba is Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario Edition. Still there're around 80,000 copies in stores to be sold. That's what I call a true bomba. And a pain in the a** for retailers.



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Kresnik on 13 August 2015
Farsala said:

And they probably still expect it to sell. Cannot just simply look at sellthrough and label as bomba. The last Nobunagas ambition on 3DS sold about 9000 FVV. This is a remake of a remake released alongside a remake. Both are similar games and end up selling 8000 together.
hiska-kun said:

Sell-through is horrible, but when we're talking about 3,000 units, what's left? 8,000 copies? Percentage looks bad, units left is not that terrible.

A true bomba is Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario Edition. Still there're around 80,000 copies in stores to be sold. That's what I call a true bomba. And a pain in the a** for retailers.

(According to Famitsu, unfortunately we're dealing with quite large ranges)

Nobunaga shipped copies = 11,107 - 21,157

Romance of Three Kingdoms shipped copies = 8,918 - 16,985

 

252   3DS Nobunaga's Ambition 8,024 13,252

FW sales of Nobunaga = 4,443

Copies on Nobunaga on shelves = 6,664 - 16,714

 

312   3DS Romance of the Three Kingdoms 4,648 4,648

FW sales of RoTTK = 3,567

Copies on RoTTK shelves = 5,351 - 13,418

 

I agree, in absolute numbers terms, there have been much worse bombas that have been much more overshipped.  I just don't understand how Koei Tecmo managed to convince retailers to take so many copies.  I thought the whole thing about Japanese retailers was that they can't return games to the publishe so anything that gets overshipped has to be price slashed to be moved.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure why they're doing ports like this for such low sales.  Even the Ateliers on Vita, which I thought haven't been worthwhile post-Meruru, move about 3 x more than these.



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lonerism on 13 August 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:

Next week prediction:
[3DS] 45,000
[PS4] 17,000
[WIU] 16,000
[PSV] 14,000

[XB1] 0,003k


there

 

fixed it



noname2200 on 13 August 2015
PwerlvlAmy said:
splatoon still killin it in japan

Only because it's cheaper than real* games.

 

*Games for Sony platforms