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AlfredoTurkey said:
Teeqoz said:


Well, no, not quite. The PS1 brought along with it the success of western devs, from Naughty Dog to Eidos to Insomniac, all of which were massively succesful during the 5th gen. There was also Rockstar, which was pretty big in the 5th gen, and got absolutely massive in the 6th gen. but by the 6th gen, western devs dominated the market.


Only three of the top ten games for PS2 were western developed.  The same can be said for PS1, only three in the top ten. Compare that to PS3 where only ONE title out of the top ten, is Japanese. Yup, that's right....one.

Where are you taking these numbers from? Vgchartz has 4 and 6 of the most successful PS1 and PS2 games coming from western devs.



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AlfredoTurkey said:
Teeqoz said:


Well, no, not quite. The PS1 brought along with it the success of western devs, from Naughty Dog to Eidos to Insomniac, all of which were massively succesful during the 5th gen. There was also Rockstar, which was pretty big in the 5th gen, and got absolutely massive in the 6th gen. but by the 6th gen, western devs dominated the market.


Only three of the top ten games for PS2 were western developed.  The same can be said for PS1, only three in the top ten. Compare that to PS3 where only ONE title out of the top ten, is Japanese. Yup, that's right....one.


6 of the top ten PS2 games were western developed. 4 for the PS1.



DerNebel said:
1) Maybe so many people are still sticking with the PS3 because you are all making it possible for them by making every game crossgen? Just a thought.

2) Hopefully that orientation towards the western market also extents into game devlopment a little, there's a lot of good stuff the japanese could learn from the western market.


Yea, crossgen is really annoying in Japan.



Teeqoz said:
AlfredoTurkey said:


Only three of the top ten games for PS2 were western developed.  The same can be said for PS1, only three in the top ten. Compare that to PS3 where only ONE title out of the top ten, is Japanese. Yup, that's right....one.


6 of the top ten PS2 games were western developed. 4 for the PS1.


1.) GTA SA (Western)

2.) GT3 (Japanese)

3.) GT4 (Japanese)

4.) GTA VC (Western)

5.) GTA3 (Western)

6.) MGS2 (Japanese)

7.) FFX (Japanese)

8.) Tekken 5 (Japanese) 

9.) FF12 (Japanese)

10.) KH (Japanese)



AlfredoTurkey said:
Teeqoz said:


6 of the top ten PS2 games were western developed. 4 for the PS1.


1.) GTA SA (Western)

2.) GT3 (Japanese)

3.) GT4 (Japanese)

4.) GTA VC (Western)

5.) GTA3 (Western)

6.) MGS2 (Japanese)

7.) FFX (Japanese)

8.) Tekken 5 (Japanese) 

9.) FF12 (Japanese)

10.) KH (Japanese)


Except that's not the real list...

1. GTA San Andreas (western)

2. GTA Vice City (western)

3. GT 3 A-spec (japanese)

4. GTA 3 (western)

5. GT 4 (japanese)

6. FFX (japanese)

7. Need for Speed Underground (western)

8. Need for Speed Underground 2 (western)

9. Medal of Honour: Frontline (western)

10. Kingdom Hearts (japanese)



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Teeqoz said:
Let's just hope that doesn't meas they'll stop localizing games when the PS4 gets a bigger userbase in Japan


Worst case scenario the game flops both in japan and the west but if so not many people will actually regret the franchise.

Best case scenario the fanbase grows in the west, japanese games niche in the west grows and more and more games are released in the west, japanese game publishing grows and so do budgets, and we get more and better games. Thus PS4 becomes more attractive in Japan too, and PS4 becomes the new PS2.

Then publishers get addicted to money, they go full EA, every big franchise dies, japanese game industry go bankrupt, and it becomes the darkest timeline.

Zun becomes the biggest japanese developper because other dev is unemployed, he inspires every unemployed dev to go the indie route and a bigger japanese indie scene start getting successful, Steam finally becomes big in japan, and the industry goes full new Hollywood, and Zun contacts Nomura Kitase and Uematsu to bring us a reboot of Final Fantasy : Final Final Fantasy which becomes the Star Wars of the new jap scene.

Zun and Nomura end up happily married and everyone realises it's the best timeline.



RenCutypoison said:
Teeqoz said:
Let's just hope that doesn't meas they'll stop localizing games when the PS4 gets a bigger userbase in Japan


Worst case scenario the game flops both in japan and the west but if so not many people will actually regret the franchise.

Best case scenario the fanbase grows in the west, japanese games niche in the west grows and more and more games are released in the west, japanese game publishing grows and so do budgets, and we get more and better games. Thus PS4 becomes more attractive in Japan too, and PS4 becomes the new PS2.

Then publishers get addicted to money, they go full EA, every big franchise dies, japanese game industry go bankrupt, and it becomes the darkest timeline.

Zun becomes the biggest japanese developper because other dev is unemployed, he inspires every unemployed dev to go the indie route and a bigger japanese indie scene start getting successful, Steam finally becomes big in japan, and the industry goes full new Hollywood, and Zun contacts Nomura Kitase and Uematsu to bring us a reboot of Final Fantasy : Final Final Fantasy which becomes the Star Wars of the new jap scene.

Zun and Nomura end up happily married and everyone realises it's the best timeline.


I'm impressed. You should be a Kingdom Hearts writer.



Ka-pi96 said:

Who is Zun?


Touhou's developper.



Teeqoz said:


I'm impressed. You should be a Kingdom Hearts writer.


But if I do that next KH will be shit, Nomura will get fired, Jap gaming scene will turn to shit, I'll end up being right and I'll be considered an oracle.

Then some religious extremist (prolly christian in europe) will kill me to prove I'm not a messiah. I don't want that to happen lol.



RenCutypoison said:
Teeqoz said:


I'm impressed. You should be a Kingdom Hearts writer.


But if I do that next KH will be shit, Nomura will get fired, Jap gaming scene will turn to shit, I'll end up being right and I'll be considered an oracle.

Then some religious extremist (prolly christian in europe) will kill me to prove I'm not a messiah. I don't want that to happen lol.



I can't find a GIF that sufficiently describes how mindblown I am right now @_@