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Yes. I feel sorry for Goku. 101 100.00%
 
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They say Super Man has no limit, but since he gets his power from the sun, the limit is the power from the sun. Doh. Now of course, comic book writers tend to ignore that, because for example travelling at the speed of light (not to mention faster...) would require infinite energy, so that's already surpassing his limits. Not to mention the "He once got enough energy from the sun to vaporize half of the galaxy", yah..... no.



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bigtakilla said:
mornelithe said:

Wrong.

Instant Transmission (from the Dragonball Wiki):

"Instantaneous Movement", also translated as "Teleportation" is a technique for traveling long distances instantly."

"The Yardrats taught Instant Transmission to Goku during his time on their planet.  Instant Transmission allows Goku and anyone that is in physical contact with him to instantly travel great distances."

It's never shown as being instant though. Even in the games and comics, he still phases in and out of locations. And it still doesn't beat omnipresence.

Omnipresence doesn't mean Superman actually has the strength to kill a fully powered up Goku.  And according to the text of the ability, it's instant.  Find me something that says otherwise, and not just your perception of a comic/cartoon (who's to say he's not phasing in as he's phasing out?) and maybe you'd have a point.



The_Sony_Girl1 said:
LMU Uncle Alfred said:
I just skipped to the end of the video and noticed that Goku wasn't really Goku in the video. I agree that Superman would win if they went all out, but that was definitely not how Goku's character is.

Really? Goku lives for fighting, and he would act like that if he's losing.


He doesn't go out of his way to try and kill someone or harm Earth though.  I've never seen Goku do that against a good guy.  His demeanor is that of a positive challenger who wants to get stronger but it's not like he'd do anything to get there aside of training harder.



Lube Me Up

The problem with Superman, and any comic character in this type of competition, is that they're written so inconsistently. One moment superman is hurling planets around, the next he's getting punched by Superman. In one comic Wolverine needs several days to heal from a deep wound, the next he's able to regenerate from complete incineration in seconds. Even a character as weak as hawkeye has incarnations that vary in strength and ability.

So, it's kind of a weird question to ask. If we take the strongest possible version of Superman, Goku doesn't stand a chance. But, there are several interpretations of Superman that Goku could wreck without breaking a sweat. Kind of a crapshoot.



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mornelithe said:
bigtakilla said:

It's never shown as being instant though. Even in the games and comics, he still phases in and out of locations. And it still doesn't beat omnipresence.

Omnipresence doesn't mean Superman actually has the strength to kill a fully powered up Goku.  And according to the text of the ability, it's instant.  Find me something that says otherwise, and not just your perception of a comic/cartoon (who's to say he's not phasing in as he's phasing out?) and maybe you'd have a point.

He does phase in and out, which is clearly shown in the comic/video games/show/movies. It's not instantaneuos. 



JWeinCom said:
The problem with Superman, and any comic character in this type of competition, is that they're written so inconsistently. One moment superman is hurling planets around, the next he's getting punched by Superman. In one comic Wolverine needs several days to heal from a deep wound, the next he's able to regenerate from complete incineration in seconds. Even a character as weak as hawkeye has incarnations that vary in strength and ability.

So, it's kind of a weird question to ask. If we take the strongest possible version of Superman, Goku doesn't stand a chance. But, there are several interpretations of Superman that Goku could wreck without breaking a sweat. Kind of a crapshoot.

That's fair.  I think my knowledge of Superman entirely makes me unable to really fairly judge this one.



AAA300 said:
JinxRake said:


I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned, but I'm too tired to read the whole topic: if you left the original Superman against just about anyone in the world of fiction, he would kick their asses to Heck and back. Superman has been nerfed so many times since his Silver Age days that the version now is basically as strong as kid Goku would be compared to his SSJ God form. 

Also, if you've never read any comics in your life and base your whole opinion on this idiotic discussion on what you know from films, than I chose the Dragon Ball MOVIE version of Goku going up against the All Star version of Superman. 


You seem to not read well so let me write it again! :) Goku from original concept was meant to be limitless through training, unlike some of these comics which add powers later and invent new things because the old character isn't good enough! Superman hearing a watch from that far away in the comic is a new power pulled out of the writers ass as well as his flare in this video! Point being what's next 10 years from now there going to give him the power to talk to fish or to materialize matter with his mind or change his shape at will. So there you have it I'm now a comic book writer and superman can now destroy existence with his mind! At least goku was meant to be limitless through training or through healing from serious wounds.

I appreciate the fact that you didn't deny how you know jack all about Superman comics, the character or stories that he's featured in. Thank you for playing, stop by anytime. 



If the sun is we're superman gets his powers then if we want to be real about it his only as strong as a sun! And that has its limits I'll take goku over a sun anyday. But yes I know comicss make new bs every year.



Goku said the "instant transmission" has him moving at several thousand miles per second (I think it was 800+ thousand) on an episode of DBZ. Maybe he didn't know how fast he actually goes or maybe it was a translation error. I never thought the instant transmission was instant, though.