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NX weaker than the xbox one?

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Ultrashroomz on 03 July 2015

Obviously, I don't want that to be the case, but it's definitely a possibility.



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CarcharodonKraz on 03 July 2015

so sure of this i consider it fact. Doesn't really bother me though. I've never really thought to my self "man nintendo is really holding 'game x' back by not boosting their hardware". I just wish they would make more contemporary games. When they do i'm usually pretty impressed. Just want them to highly limit their 2d games. Maybe just one or two a generation.



Guitarguy on 03 July 2015
Metroid33slayer said:
RavenXtra said:
Prediction: The NX home console will be a handheld.

OT: I don't see it being less-powerful than Xbox One. The XB1 is already $349.99, if the NX releases late 2016 or during 2017, a system with similar specs could probably go for $249.99-299.99 at launch.

This doesn't mean a thing. Cheaper components will mean a bigger profit or an increase in power which one do you think nintendo will choose.


This.

Microsoft are taking a big cut on xbox1's just to get them into homes. Nintendo don't take that approach and strive to actually make a profit off each console sold.



generic-user-1 on 03 July 2015
JRPGfan said:
generic-user-1 said:
JRPGfan said:

yes, but the tech in the xbone isnt new...

but you could be right, we may not see smartphones as strong as the xbone next year but thats because of consumer demand and not because the tech isnt there and cheap.  they were half the way in 2013, and the "new" tegra x1 should be realy close.  the next gen of tegra will b stronger than the xbone...


Watch this in 1080p mode:

Compaire the graphics of both.... PS4 looks a million times better.

Tegra X1 uses 10-12 watts to do this

Its too much for a smart phone... it might even be too much for a tablet.... this chip will end up inside cars (more or less only).

There is more to this than just nvidia theortical compute power numbers.

 

Tegra X1 is no where near as powerfull as the Xbox One or PS4.

We will wont see a "smart phone" thats equal to a console within 5 years.. why? becasue theres no way to do it at 3-4watts.

 

If you made a Bigger Tegra X1,... maybe say = 30watts (heavly overclock it), and add in much faster ram (more power hungry).... you could come close, but it would probably still be weaker than the Xbox One (and it would require you to re-design the chip, bigger bus (to use better ram) => more power used).

the X1 is used in the shield console. and thats close to the xbox one...



Netyaroze on 03 July 2015

I somehow think NX is not going to be a traditional platform.



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zorg1000 on 03 July 2015
generic-user-1 said:
JRPGfan said:
generic-user-1 said:
JRPGfan said:

yes, but the tech in the xbone isnt new...

but you could be right, we may not see smartphones as strong as the xbone next year but thats because of consumer demand and not because the tech isnt there and cheap.  they were half the way in 2013, and the "new" tegra x1 should be realy close.  the next gen of tegra will b stronger than the xbone...


Watch this in 1080p mode:

Compaire the graphics of both.... PS4 looks a million times better.

Tegra X1 uses 10-12 watts to do this

Its too much for a smart phone... it might even be too much for a tablet.... this chip will end up inside cars (more or less only).

There is more to this than just nvidia theortical compute power numbers.

 

Tegra X1 is no where near as powerfull as the Xbox One or PS4.

We will wont see a "smart phone" thats equal to a console within 5 years.. why? becasue theres no way to do it at 3-4watts.

 

If you made a Bigger Tegra X1,... maybe say = 30watts (heavly overclock it), and add in much faster ram (more power hungry).... you could come close, but it would probably still be weaker than the Xbox One (and it would require you to re-design the chip, bigger bus (to use better ram) => more power used).

the X1 is used in the shield console. and thats close to the xbox one...


From what I understand the shield console is actually 512 gflops



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se7en7thre3 on 03 July 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Nvidia shield console has 700 gflop power (approximately half of Xbox One power) and costs $199.


Its actually 1 tflop http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/04/nvidia-tegra-x1/

Obviously being a mobile design, would knock it down in performance but if you had 2 of these suckers for the NX home console version, then it may match/exceed XB1.

A downclocked version of the x1  chip in the NX handheld, and 2 of full versions (if not one, newer designed chip) in the home version would be ideal.  If Nintendo uses the same chips in the handheld and other iterations, they will get a better manufacturing deal.  The key is to get the HH version powerful enough for this approach to be feasible.



super6646 on 03 July 2015

I said false, but I really don't know what Nintendo will do. Alot of times, they release something far too weak. And if they continue to use their wacky architecture, it won't matter if its more powerful than the PS4. Game developers will be unable to provide anything close to what the XB1 or PS4 will get, and well we know the rest. I'm praying they do this correctly, but if Nintendo can't, well...



bigtakilla on 03 July 2015
Wyrdness said:
X1 specs will be cheap enough to come in at that price point by the time NX is released especially as Nintendo skips mulitmedia functions and probably won't have a HDD in favour of supporting external HDDs.

^this. Xbone parts (or equivalent) will be cheap enough, heck PS4 hardware should be cheap enough. I personally think we will see something more powerful than the PS4 for around $300 (which is their golden ticket price). If they would be willing to take an L on the console, they could easily make it back up in software.

I would say it would be an undeniable fact if production of the NX started Oct 2016, but being it's getting made Oct this year, I guess it is a little debatable. But if it is less capable than an XBone, it would need a hell of an innovation to move 20 mil first year. (Or a hell of a first year line up.)



Soundwave on 03 July 2015

Tegra X1 is good, but Imagination's PowerVR GT7900 is even better. 800 GFLOPS @ under 10 watts apparently (1.6 TFLOPS in FP16 mode) and apparently very cheap. Add some eDRAM or other type of high speed RAM solution and you'd have a pretty powerful little console. 

To the OP's point I agree it could happen. I think NX is going to be a pretty different type of device and Nintendo is banking on the novelty to sell it, not interested in competing with Sony/MS directly. 

To be honest for *Nintendo games* I really don't even mind Wii U graphics all that much. It would be nice to have less jaggies and maybe a little better lighting/shading effects, but even after playing Batman Arkham Knight on PS4 and going back to my PS4, I don't get the "OMG! This is such a huuuuuuuuge gap!!" feeling I used to get going from PS3 to Wii. HD graphics makes a big difference.