Xbox One, PS4 sales "disappointing" in China

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nanarchy on 01 July 2015

Lawlight said:

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there are hundreds of thousands in the US, UK and Russia that also can't afford 3 square meals a day. (actually more likely millions). India also has millions of rich and middle class.

Russia and the U.S. are relatively poor so that's understandable. I'm dubious about the UK - they must have made bad choices if they cannot afford to eat. As for India, I revised my statement to hundreds of millions cannot afford 3 square meals. Something like 95% of the country live on under $5 a day.

yes it is hundreds of millions, but the poveryty rate is about 25% of the population not 95%, still rather extreme just not as bad as you make it out to be.

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Lawlight on 01 July 2015

nanarchy said:

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Russia and the U.S. are relatively poor so that's understandable. I'm dubious about the UK - they must have made bad choices if they cannot afford to eat. As for India, I revised my statement to hundreds of millions cannot afford 3 square meals. Something like 95% of the country live on under $5 a day.

yes it is hundreds of millions, but the poveryty rate is about 25% of the population not 95%, still rather extreme just not as bad as you make it out to be.

Yes, 25% of the population live on under $1.25 per day but 99.6% of the population live on under $5 a day.

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Nuvendil on 01 July 2015

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They've done that song and dance with the Chinese government before via their subsidiary iQue. While the iQue systems were never going to and were never ment to sell gangbusters, they clearly weren't even remotely successful enough of an experiment.

Did it actually sell Nintendo franchises though? I really thought that Wii U could have done something good in China.

Yes. It launched in 2003 as a sort of cheap, ultra compact N64 with key highlights from the library (MK64, Smash, OoT, Wave Race, and Super Mario 64 to name a few) plus online functionality for buying games, cloud saving, etc. It was an experiment to guard interest in affordable dedicated gaming hardware as well as the reasonability of the government. I think their lack of interest in bringing the Wii, Wii U, or 3DS there speaks volumes to how that experiment went :P

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bunchanumbers on 01 July 2015

Nuvendil said:

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Did it actually sell Nintendo franchises though? I really thought that Wii U could have done something good in China.

Yes. It launched in 2003 as a sort of cheap, ultra compact N64 with key highlights from the library (MK64, Smash, OoT, Wave Race, and Super Mario 64 to name a few) plus online functionality for buying games, cloud saving, etc. It was an experiment to guard interest in affordable dedicated gaming hardware as well as the reasonability of the government. I think their lack of interest in bringing the Wii, Wii U, or 3DS there speaks volumes to how that experiment went :P

Really? Nintendo should have invested more than that. Using a N64 to gauge interest when some of the best games Nintendo made were on Wii U? They should have launched the GCN there. And I still think that they should launch Wii U there. They just need to lower the price, or cut the gamepad and make a system that works with the Pro Controller.

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Nuvendil on 01 July 2015

bunchanumbers said:

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Yes. It launched in 2003 as a sort of cheap, ultra compact N64 with key highlights from the library (MK64, Smash, OoT, Wave Race, and Super Mario 64 to name a few) plus online functionality for buying games, cloud saving, etc. It was an experiment to guard interest in affordable dedicated gaming hardware as well as the reasonability of the government. I think their lack of interest in bringing the Wii, Wii U, or 3DS there speaks volumes to how that experiment went :P

Really? Nintendo should have invested more than that. Using a N64 to gauge interest when some of the best games Nintendo made were on Wii U? They should have launched the GCN there. And I still think that they should launch Wii U there. They just need to lower the price, or cut the gamepad and make a system that works with the Pro Controller.

I said it launched in 2003, that's well before the Wii U :P . And disposable income in 2003 in China was on average far lower than it is now so the 2003 GameCube with a very limited library wouldn't have been able to get down to the needed price point without becoming completely unprofitable.

As for launching the Wii U, why? It has been available on the grey market and in Hong Kong for a long time, doesn't have a big enough library to drive down the price, and the Ps4 and Xbone just failed in the region. There's no empirical evidence to suggest that China is a secure investment.