Ok guys I have to take off now, I'll try to come back later.

Here in the Philippines, crime and corruption is so rampant that we think the Death Penalty is needed to curve the situation even for just a bit. Desperate times calls for desperate measures.

The Singapore government has stated that the death penalty has been an amazing deterrence.

I'm against it for a number of personal preferences.

I was joking earlier, but a life sentence really does cost less than the death penalty
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/

“It’s 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive,”says Donald McCartin, known as The Hanging Judge of Orange County. McCartin knows a little bit about executions: he has sent nine men to death row.

By the numbers, the annual cost of the death penalty in the state of California is $137 million compared to the cost of lifetime incarceration of $11.5 million.

Yeah that's because of lawyers. They drag it out 20 years before finally executing someone. These days shouldn't take more than a year.

1. I don't think whether or not it is revenge matters, but your reasoning for defending that point was a joke...literally.

2. We don't live by Hammurabi's Code and we do not pick punishments on the grounds of whether or not you would be angry in a hypothetical situation. This alongside the fact that the death penalty drags out the case, prevents families from moving on and generally makes things more difficult for the family really weakens the case for the death penalty.

3. The death penalty could be considered cruel and unusual punishment by some and it has been debated at length

4. The reason behind the cost of the death penalty is irrelevant, however, the purpose of the appeal process is to ensure that only those who are deemed to deserve the death penalty receive the death penalty

5. The current system of determing guilt, even with the inclusion of DNA evidence is far from perfect.

6. Out of curiousity, what are some examples of prisoners being set free despite life without parole? It is difficult to comment on in a vacuum. Also, prison isn't exactly the greatest place on earth, prison suicide is fairly common, prison rape is fairly common etc, while lethal injection is essentially nothing... While you say that prisoners prefer life in prison, some prefer the death penalty.

All of these reasons put together (and the other ones mentioned) make a pretty strong case against the death penalty, wheras the arguments behind the death penalty seem to be extremely weak, boiling down to nothing but "an eye for an eye".

1. It's a perfectly good argument because a lot of people claim the death penalty is "revenge," but it's not revenge because it's handed down by a neutral jury

2. That's because of the appeals process, which isn't even constitutional.

3. The fifth amendment states "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." So yeah, the death penalty is OK. It's not cruel or unusual because their crimes are cruel and unusual. The constitution is based off of the Social Contract by John Locke which explicitly states that when someone intentionally murders another person they forfeit their own life.

4. It is not irrelevant dude. The reasons are never irrelevant. How is it irrelevant? Lawyers being greedy is super relevant brotha.

5. Which is why standards for death penalty cases should be higher.

6. The fact that the VAST majority (90%+) of prisoners prefer life in prison over the death penalty may have something to do with it. Lol @ you bringing up prison rape and all that. Man this isn't the movies. THIS IS REAL LIFE.

2. The appeals process isn't constitutional? The process which determines whether a person deserves to be executed (in the eyes of the law) isn't constitutional?

3. Again, the part of the constitution I am referencing is the 8th Amendment speaking about cruel and unusual punishment. As I said, this has been debated by many people, and while the supreme court determined it to be constitution, it is still somewhat of a murky subject.

4. The appeals process isn't for the lawyers, its for the person who is going to be put to death

5. No matter how high you raise the standards, it is difficult to ensure that no one is ever falsely executed.

6. Are you implying that prison rape doesn't happen in real life? Statistics seem to indicate that around 15% of inmates have been sexually assaulted. EDIT: Also, do you have a citation for that figure?

In the end, the death penalty isn't better for the victims, it isn't better for the victims families, it isn't better for the falsely accused, it isn't really worse for the truthfully accused, it isn't better for the taxpayer, it isn't better for the country's image, it isn't a better deterrent (according to many sources including the ACLU and 88% of criminologists) and it is morally questionable....so whats the point?

I don't mind the death penalty. Some people just need to be put down