| McDonaldsGuy said:
1. It's a perfectly good argument because a lot of people claim the death penalty is "revenge," but it's not revenge because it's handed down by a neutral jury 2. That's because of the appeals process, which isn't even constitutional. 3. The fifth amendment states "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." So yeah, the death penalty is OK. It's not cruel or unusual because their crimes are cruel and unusual. The constitution is based off of the Social Contract by John Locke which explicitly states that when someone intentionally murders another person they forfeit their own life. 4. It is not irrelevant dude. The reasons are never irrelevant. How is it irrelevant? Lawyers being greedy is super relevant brotha. 5. Which is why standards for death penalty cases should be higher. 6. The fact that the VAST majority (90%+) of prisoners prefer life in prison over the death penalty may have something to do with it. Lol @ you bringing up prison rape and all that. Man this isn't the movies. THIS IS REAL LIFE. |
2. The appeals process isn't constitutional? The process which determines whether a person deserves to be executed (in the eyes of the law) isn't constitutional?
3. Again, the part of the constitution I am referencing is the 8th Amendment speaking about cruel and unusual punishment. As I said, this has been debated by many people, and while the supreme court determined it to be constitution, it is still somewhat of a murky subject.
4. The appeals process isn't for the lawyers, its for the person who is going to be put to death
5. No matter how high you raise the standards, it is difficult to ensure that no one is ever falsely executed.
6. Are you implying that prison rape doesn't happen in real life? Statistics seem to indicate that around 15% of inmates have been sexually assaulted. EDIT: Also, do you have a citation for that figure?
In the end, the death penalty isn't better for the victims, it isn't better for the victims families, it isn't better for the falsely accused, it isn't really worse for the truthfully accused, it isn't better for the taxpayer, it isn't better for the country's image, it isn't a better deterrent (according to many sources including the ACLU and 88% of criminologists) and it is morally questionable....so whats the point?
