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Burek on 23 June 2015

What I find the most interesting is the neverending flood of NX related topics after E3.
Seems that, after Nintendo, even its fans have given up hope on WiiU, and are now trying their best to keep up hopes for the future. I just wonder how many of those 10 million fans Nintendo will lose in the transition?



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Mystro-Sama on 23 June 2015
SpokenTruth said:
I really hate to agree with the OP.



Which is partially why I don't.


Even though you don't have an opposing argument you will just disagree with me anyways, right? Ah, ok then. lol



Mystro-Sama on 23 June 2015
RolStoppable said:
Mystro-Sama said:

Theres nothing wrong with asking questions. Nintendo would be better a lot better off if their fans did more research instead of blindly following everything they do.

EVERY franchise can benefit from better hardware. There is no debating that. Unless you're telling me that Pokemon will stop evolving at this point? There are many developers out there with dreams of creating certain games but were limited with the hardware that was available at the time. Just look at how different Arkham Knight is to Arkham Asylum which came out last generation.

Your benefit argument doesn't take sales into consideration and that's a big mistake in a topic that is ultimately about sales.

He was just saying Nintendo franchises don't need better hardware. I wasn't referring to sales I was just referring to how franchises can become better with better hardware. At least in this context anyways.



MoHasanie on 23 June 2015
zorg1000 said:

Having a powerful console really doesn't benefit Nintendo since barely any of their games require powerful specs to look great and the fact that there has never in the history of Nintendo hardware been a AAA western multiplat system seller, it's safe to say they have no bearing on the success/failure of Nintendo hardware.

Nintendo does have an excellent software output, the problem is their resources are spread out by 2 separate platforms. Here is Nintendo-published software output for this year in America.

Nintendo is averaging 2-3 published titles per month and that holds true for 2013/2014 as well. When u add in Japanese support for the handheld, child/family friendly support that both sides get along with indie support and Virtual Console release then ur looking at 100+ titles per year. Nintendo also doesn't need a new controller gimmick, they need a simple to understand controller that can be used by pretty much anyone, like the Wii Remote, something they backtracked on with Wii U which returned to the dual analog, 8 face button, 4 shoulder design that is only understood by longtime gamers.

None of their games currently require poweful specs but in the future they might. And graphics are always improving and its quite important to gaming. Nintendo being the world's largest video game company should also change with the times. Plus Nintendo should still have hope for third party support and certainly keep third party games in mind when designing the NX. 

And although you're right that Nintendo makes quite a lot of games, making games for 2 platforms will continue to be a problem unless Nintendo makes one machine which is both a handheld and console  (to me this is unlikely since Nintendo's handhelds still sell well). Perhaps if both the console and handheld were struggling then Nintendo would make one machine, but right now, I don't think stubborn Nintendo will do that. 



    

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Mystro-Sama on 23 June 2015
RolStoppable said:
Mystro-Sama said:

He was just saying Nintendo franchises don't need better hardware. I wasn't referring to sales I was just referring to how franchises can become better with better hardware. At least in this context anyways.

He was saying that in the context of sales. And he is right.


What he said was "Having a powerful console really doesn't benefit Nintendo since barely any of their games require powerful specs to look great". Which I went on to tell it better hardware goes beyond to graphics.



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zorg1000 on 23 June 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
zorg1000 said:


Sorry if my wording was bad, I kinda group all those together. But my general point still stands, barely any of Nintendo's franchises really require super powerful hardware to accomplish what they set out to do.


Theres nothing wrong with asking questions. Nintendo would be better a lot better off if their fans did more research instead of blindly following everything they do.

EVERY franchise can benefit from better hardware. There is no debating that. Unless you're telling me that Pokemon will stop evolving at this point? There are many developers out there with dreams of creating certain games but were limited with the hardware that was available at the time. Just look at how different Arkham Knight is to Arkham Asylum which came out last generation.

U seem to be rambling about something that has nothing to do with what I said. I said Nintendo doesn't need powerful hardware on par with the competitors, I didn't say Nintendo should never increase their hardware specs.



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Mystro-Sama on 23 June 2015
zorg1000 said:
Mystro-Sama said:


Theres nothing wrong with asking questions. Nintendo would be better a lot better off if their fans did more research instead of blindly following everything they do.

EVERY franchise can benefit from better hardware. There is no debating that. Unless you're telling me that Pokemon will stop evolving at this point? There are many developers out there with dreams of creating certain games but were limited with the hardware that was available at the time. Just look at how different Arkham Knight is to Arkham Asylum which came out last generation.

U seem to be rambling about something that has nothing to do with what I said. I said Nintendo doesn't need powerful hardware on par with the competitors, I didn't say Nintendo should never increase their hardware specs.

So why ask why people would want a more powerful console? lol



freebs2 on 23 June 2015

I agree with points 1 and 4, for the rest absolutely not.

Nintendo should be clear about what target are catering to, and be true to that decision, during this generation it looked like they had a dual identity disorder.
Also, they must become more efficient at HD development, they cannot afford to delay every game, every time.



Mystro-Sama on 23 June 2015
freebs2 said:

I agree with points 1 and 4, for the rest absolutely not.

Nintendo should be clear about what target are catering to, and be true to that decision, during this generation it looked like they had a dual identity disorder.
Also, they must become more efficient at HD development, they cannot afford to delay every game, every time.


What's wrong with 2, 3 and 5? lol



zorg1000 on 23 June 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
zorg1000 said:
Mystro-Sama said:


Theres nothing wrong with asking questions. Nintendo would be better a lot better off if their fans did more research instead of blindly following everything they do.

EVERY franchise can benefit from better hardware. There is no debating that. Unless you're telling me that Pokemon will stop evolving at this point? There are many developers out there with dreams of creating certain games but were limited with the hardware that was available at the time. Just look at how different Arkham Knight is to Arkham Asylum which came out last generation.

U seem to be rambling about something that has nothing to do with what I said. I said Nintendo doesn't need powerful hardware on par with the competitors, I didn't say Nintendo should never increase their hardware specs.

So why ask why people would want a more powerful console? lol

Ur previous comment made me think u were implying there were reasons beyond game design.



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