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2Quick said:
enlightenedmaster said:
2Quick said:
enlightenedmaster said:

very vague details

the way they showcased at E3,i was in doubt if SEGA even owned the franchise

 

i think if SONY pumps in money then surely they will own atleast SHENMUE 3 as a game period like they do with METAL GEAR SOLID1,FINAL FANTASY 7,etc


I never heard of sony owning these games...

SONY doesn't outright own them as they are properties of KONAMI,SQUARE ENIX and SEGA but had some funding or exclusivity deal,they have rights to it or own a part of it

 

its not anything like timed exclusivity deals

what about the steam version?  on steam the game is listed with:

© 1997,1998 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.
FINAL FANTASY, SQUARE ENIX, the SQUARE ENIX logo, SQUARESOFT and the SQUARESOFT logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd.

There is no mention of Sony.  If Sony owned some of the rights to the game, wouldn't they have to say copyright SCEA or something along those lines?

obviously thats the way

just because titanfall is exclsuive doesn't mean they will display microsoft trademark,if they show,its cause microsoft may be publishing

don't be stupid and posting that here,means absolute shit nothing

sony funded square,if you are and old gamer you wud know.square used to have alot of financial problems so sony helped them financial a number of times as they have does with many many other company's

sony also had a stake in square enix which they sold last year

 

and sonny was in partnership with square,they marketed the hell out of FF7



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mountaindewslave said:
enlightenedmaster said:

very vague details

the way they showcased at E3,i was in doubt if SEGA even owned the franchise

 

i think if SONY pumps in money then surely they will own atleast SHENMUE 3 as a game period like they do with METAL GEAR SOLID1,FINAL FANTASY 7,etc

doubtful, Sega is still too large and significant to agree to letting go of such a famous IP

like others have mentioned, it is similar to Bayonetta 2- literally you hardly heard about Sega's involvement throughout the whole thing because when licensing an IP its not exactly something a company wants to shout about as obviously Sega fans are going to probably get annoyed that Sega ignored the IP for so long and then just sort of tossed it at another developer to try to work with

OBVIOUSLY,sega still does own it

though sega isn't actually that big



mountaindewslave said:
enlightenedmaster said:
2Quick said:
enlightenedmaster said:

very vague details

the way they showcased at E3,i was in doubt if SEGA even owned the franchise

 

i think if SONY pumps in money then surely they will own atleast SHENMUE 3 as a game period like they do with METAL GEAR SOLID1,FINAL FANTASY 7,etc


I never heard of sony owning these games...

SONY doesn't outright own them as they are properties of KONAMI,SQUARE ENIX and SEGA but had some funding or exclusivity deal,they have rights to it or own a part of it

 

its not anything like timed exclusivity deals


pretty sure you're mistaken in terms of any actual ownership leaving the hands of the IP's owner. I'm almost certain, regardless of developmental costs, the company with the property rights (like Sega and Shenmue) will have all control over future re-releases of say, Shenmue 3, or potentially anything else to do with the series

i never said ownership of ip left owners hand.

obviously,the deal for 1 game exclusive will not be for entire franchise

 

but if a console maker has funded the game not just loaned money then most of the time,they don't let go of that exclusivty for atleast that numbered game.

agin it depends on the agreement



Ka-pi96 said:
enlightenedmaster said:

obviously thats the way

just because titanfall is exclsuive doesn't mean they will display microsoft trademark,if they show,its cause microsoft may be publishing

don't be stupid and posting that here,means absolute shit nothing

sony funded square,if you are and old gamer you wud know.square used to have alot of financial problems so sony helped them financial a number of times as they have does with many many other company's

sony also had a stake in square enix which they sold last year

 

and sonny was in partnership with square,they marketed the hell out of FF7

Yeah, cuz Microsoft don't own Titanfall. Most times games are funded by console makers it is only to secure some kind of exclusivity, doesn't give them any ownership at all though. So unless you can actually present some solid evidence...

games are actually never funded by console maker unless first party or second party

they sign exclusivity deals or marketing rights or bundle deals,nothing else

but if somebody goes in and funds a game then the console maker tries to own outright exclusive rights but depends upon the agreement.

 

search the web,i don't have time right now.its pretty damn popular and been discussed many times



Ka-pi96 said:
enlightenedmaster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah, cuz Microsoft don't own Titanfall. Most times games are funded by console makers it is only to secure some kind of exclusivity, doesn't give them any ownership at all though. So unless you can actually present some solid evidence...

games are actually never funded by console maker unless first party or second party

they sign exclusivity deals or marketing rights or bundle deals,nothing else

but if somebody goes in and funds a game then the console maker tries to own outright exclusive rights but depends upon the agreement.

 

search the web,i don't have time right now.its pretty damn popular and been discussed many times

But whenever they do go in and get rights for a game they are funding they own the whole IP, not just a single game in the franchise. See Demon's Souls as an example, Sony owned the IP not the game, so to go multiplat From Software had to start a brand new IP (Dark Souls) rather than just release a Demon's Souls 2. Nintendo's deal for Bayonetta 2 is the exception, not the rule.

no they can,it depends upon the agreement.Just bring in a lawyer and tweak the agreement.

 

Demon's Souls was a new small IP.

Stop comparing it to FF7,METAL GEAR