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Hynad said:
Skullwaker said:
So, they basically gave the kickstarter support by announcing it at E3 and are paying for all of the marketing. I have to wonder exactly where they're going to get the money for the rest of the development, though. The original games cost quite a bit of money to make, and Shenmue III must cost an exponential amount two generations later.


If Shenmue was made as is with today's tools, it wouldn't cost nearly as much.

They had to build everything from scratch back then, since engines like Cry and U4 didn't exist. Everything had to be meticulously crafted by hand.

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.



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Yooka said:

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

That happens with any KS game...

The Witcher while didn't used KS itself get near $3m budget from a KS like campaign... the rest was funded by other sources.
pCARs used KS but the rest of money was funded by others sources too.

I see no issue getting some money from KS or like campaigns... you know KS give you a copy of the game that is cheaper than retail... it is like a preorder of the game.

KS = Your preorder will help to developer the game.



47 million in 1994 works itself out to 75.4 million today based on inflation.

This is just for context on the amount of money SEGA used to make this game. 47 Million is alot of money now
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Here is the Wiki entry for most expensive video games, and it shows Shenmue at #13 $47miliion for development, and 23 million for Marketing = 70 million. So it did in fact cost SEGA 70 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop

If Yu Suzuki really wants to develop this game, at the max amount of money, he should have had his stretch goals tiers add other systems (XB1, WiiU). I realize Sony is going to pay for the porting onto the PS4, Sony could have kept exclusive marketing rights,with an option for physical release, and kept other ports on other consoles strictly digital. They could have also had given Nintendo, and MS the option to cover porting cost to their respective consoles.

My .02 cents I'm not going to fund on KS anymore I already got burned on one KS where my $300 helped a douchebag pay for rent, and vacations. I'll pay full price for a product when it's on a store shelf.



ethomaz said:

Yooka said:

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

That happens with any KS game...

The Witcher while didn't used KS itself get near $3m budget from a KS like campaign... the rest was funded by other sources.
pCARs used KS but the rest of money was funded by others sources too.

I see no issue getting some money from KS or like campaigns... you know KS give you a copy of the game that is cheaper than retail... it is like a preorder of the game.

KS = Your preorder will help to developer the game.

No it doesn't.

The average pledge is also much higher than the cost of a retail game.

Project Cars: the guys that promised a Wii U version and then broke it. Great example you got there.



Yooka said:

No it doesn't.

The average pledge is also much higher than the cost of a retail game.

Project Cars: the guys that promised a Wii U version and then broke it. Great example you got there.

Every KS for gaming I saw have a sub $30 digital copy of the game... the small pledge... of course you can give more but you are preordering the game to fund it.

I'm ok with that...

And I have no issue with a big company funding a KS project too... you can have $5m from the KS and others $5m from big companies.

BTW I expect Shenmue to reach the $10m goal on KS... $5m is already in the bag because KS move faster in the last days.

Edit - About pCARs the goals didn't have Wii U version... the dev promised it after the others versions... from what I know the version can happen yet.



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Yooka said:
Hynad said:
Skullwaker said:
So, they basically gave the kickstarter support by announcing it at E3 and are paying for all of the marketing. I have to wonder exactly where they're going to get the money for the rest of the development, though. The original games cost quite a bit of money to make, and Shenmue III must cost an exponential amount two generations later.


If Shenmue was made as is with today's tools, it wouldn't cost nearly as much.

They had to build everything from scratch back then, since engines like Cry and U4 didn't exist. Everything had to be meticulously crafted by hand.

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

No one is denying that the game can't be made and meet the first two games standard with only 2M. 

Now, Sony isn't the one using Kickstarter. Ys Net is. Try to inform yourself about the project before passing that kind of baseless comments. 




Hynad said:
Yooka said:
Hynad said:
Skullwaker said:
So, they basically gave the kickstarter support by announcing it at E3 and are paying for all of the marketing. I have to wonder exactly where they're going to get the money for the rest of the development, though. The original games cost quite a bit of money to make, and Shenmue III must cost an exponential amount two generations later.


If Shenmue was made as is with today's tools, it wouldn't cost nearly as much.

They had to build everything from scratch back then, since engines like Cry and U4 didn't exist. Everything had to be meticulously crafted by hand.

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

No one is denying that the game can't be made and meet the first two games standard with only 2M. 

Now, Sony isn't the one using Kickstarter. Ys Net is. Try to inform yourself about the project before passing that kind of baseless comments. 


Yeah, I'm sure they have the money to fund a large part of this game...

They don't though.

Like I said, Sony is the most likely candidate. They announced the KS on their E3 event and it's console exclusive to PS4. Marketting budget is also usually the most expensive part of developing games these days.

It's obvious to me that Sony is the biggest funder of this game.



Yooka said:
ethomaz said:

Yooka said:

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

That happens with any KS game...

The Witcher while didn't used KS itself get near $3m budget from a KS like campaign... the rest was funded by other sources.
pCARs used KS but the rest of money was funded by others sources too.

I see no issue getting some money from KS or like campaigns... you know KS give you a copy of the game that is cheaper than retail... it is like a preorder of the game.

KS = Your preorder will help to developer the game.

No it doesn't.

The average pledge is also much higher than the cost of a retail game.

Project Cars: the guys that promised a Wii U version and then broke it. Great example you got there.


You get a very limited edition of the game, and depending on your pledge, you also get a lot of exclusive and limited collector's items.

Nobody is forcing anyone to spend more than 60 bucks on any project. 



Hynad said:
Yooka said:
Hynad said:
Skullwaker said:
So, they basically gave the kickstarter support by announcing it at E3 and are paying for all of the marketing. I have to wonder exactly where they're going to get the money for the rest of the development, though. The original games cost quite a bit of money to make, and Shenmue III must cost an exponential amount two generations later.


If Shenmue was made as is with today's tools, it wouldn't cost nearly as much.

They had to build everything from scratch back then, since engines like Cry and U4 didn't exist. Everything had to be meticulously crafted by hand.

Game costs have gone up, not down since the first Shenmue. There's no way this game can be made with a $2.000.000 budget. It's pretty obvious this game is being funded by a big publisher(s) and the most likely candidate is Sony.

Big companies using KS is despicable if you ask me. But I guess some companies can do no wrong in the eyes of some fans.

No one is denying that the game can't be made and meet the first two games standard with only 2M. 

Now, Sony isn't the one using Kickstarter. Ys Net is. Try to inform yourself about the project before passing that kind of baseless comments. 


Why was the original funding goal for the game set to $2 million if they didn't already have the rest of the funding for it?  If they didn't already have the rest of the funding then why are they only telling us this now?  The reason Sony is also taking heat is because they're involved with all of this and had it in their conference at E3.  You don't think they should take any blame even though they're the ones that brought it to many people's attention?



Yooka said:

Yeah, I'm sure they have the money to fund a large part of this game...

They don't though.

Like I said, Sony is the most likely candidate. They announced the KS on their E3 event and it's console exclusive to PS4. Marketting budget is also usually the most expensive part of developing games these days.

It's obvious to me that Sony is the biggest funder of this game.


Have you even watched the video from the op... -___-